Thickness is irrelevant, sound, light and telepathic attacks have no problem going through Sue's fields.
Sue cannot block TP.
Why is it that everyone who "knows they've seen Sue block tp" can't remember where or when?
Maybe because it's never happened?
One hit kill tactics such as opening fields inside people's brains/hearts were banned from the start.
A few of you seem to "feel" that Surfer beats Quasar regardless of what has actually transpired in the comics.
I put this down to Surfer's over-hyped rep on KMC.
Quasar has showings that are equally as good as anything Surfer has pulled out and even better in a lot of cases (especially if those cases involve people who heavily rely on energy based abilities... such as Heralds)
Very early in his career Quasar handled Firelord with no problems (while tired) and he has only gotten better since then:
Surfer is a cosmic battery, sure ... but Quasar has an entire universe of energy to draw on... he has no limits on how much he can absorb simply because it doesn't get stored in his body, the Quantum bands shunt it into the quantum universe/dimension... surfer, on the other hand, can be overloaded.
Not necessarily ... but they have much more options and are equally powerful when it comes to energy discharges (but I don't think Q can manipulate matter .... which doesn't really matter in this tourney)
I knew it would be an uphill struggle arguing against the Surfer from the start just because of the way people on KMC view him ... there are so many threads like "Surfer Vs The Entire Justice League" or "Surfer Vs DC Earth".
A problem with a lot of those threads are that they are argued on by reputation only... I doubt half the participants have read anything featuring Surfer outside the Infinity Gauntlet stories.
And even less people seem to have a decent working knowledge of Quasar (which is why I have to post all the scans).
I just hope this entire tourney isn't pre-decided just because someone got to the Herald draft thread first and got Surfer before the next person could.
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Nah, scans show alot, but in something like this it really doesn't come down to that, at least to me anyway. Its character potential and how well you can work that potential to your favor, which Quasar and SS have alot of potential and often arn't written that way.
So far it seems to be a pretty even fight, Im just having a hell of a time following some of the posts and debates.
I donīt have scans only the ones i can find in KMC, i donīt have the comic when sue portects against psy lord, and donīt know the number because in here its more difficult to get some comics.
you are proving sue canīt protect of TP in one scan, a scan where she is separating thing from wolverine, sheīs not prepared to fight a telepath, really in a comic fight no way sue gets beaten by psylocke. And i proved that she stopped a mental attack with her shield, it was TK but a mental attack jean couldnīt use it inside sueīs shield. Still psylocke canīt put her uselless trough TP its only allowed a degree of TP attack, sue would still be able to knock her out. She canīt pur a shield inside her head, but she can put it outside, i would like to see psylock trying to use TP at the same time she is having problems with breathing
you are basing your victory in psylocke TP, but surfer can destroy her easily.
Or spawn can simply teleport besides psylocke and kill her, magic attacks can affect quasar shields.
And if this doenīs work then i have to do something i didnīt want, i have to sacrifice nightcrawler, he would teleport into psylockeīs body, if you donīt have telepathic attacs, your team goes down fast.
and donīt say quasar can beat surfer based in information that you donīt have, you cannot prove that, you are just saying most people thinks he would win and are wrong, no they arenīt, we donīt have a real fight between them, surfer has the same or more impressive feats then quasar. you are saying heīs underrated, no sue storm is the one underrated here.
ANd we canīt use matter manipulation in the characters to turn them in something else, it doensīt mean surfer canīt use his matter manipulation powers in the scenario.
exactly,
but in here its surfer not holding back, we all know that if he gives everything in a fight he is one of the best, see his fight against morg.
Not to mention the abbility he has to seek the weak points of adversaries, he has done so many times, example: in annihialation (before the upgrade) when he beats ravenous and his boys.
Assuming much aren't we? Honest? Do you have a scan or issue number of her blocking telepathy? I have yet to this...even when KMC had this Sue/TP epidemic going on...no one could prove that she could. That scan clearly shows her encased in a bubble and being effected by telepathy.
BTW Telepathy and Telekinesis do not work by the same concept...especially since it works over light years(Lilandra and X still communicate via telepathy) and is inter dimensional.(Jean and Mikhails people)
My vote still stands..
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Sue needs to know were someone is to use a field, she does not know where Psylocke is in this battle.
No, I'm not, I'm only using TP to confuse/restrain Sue (at the moment) via telepathic "bolts" and illusions.
Illegal move, One hit kills like that are banned (Which you knew when you posted that Sue can't create fields inside of heads)
I didn't say I "proved" it, I just said they fought before with no prep and Surfer never managed to beat Quasar.
I'm debating that, with prep, Quasar creates a much more formidable protective armour and makes it far, far harder for the Surfer than it ever could have been before in any comic.
Which means that Quasar doesn't need to worry much about defence during the actual fight and can focus most of his energy on taking Surfer down.
I'm saying that a lot of people are predicting a Surfer win solely based on his KMC reputation (which is over rated and under researched)
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That fight I posted was also of Surfer "not holding back" ... and it still didn't get him a win against an unprepared Quasar.
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its not illegal because my character dies too, if i blast someone in the heart he will die with one hit is that ilegal? iīm not ripping her head with nightcrawlers power, iīm scacrificing the live of one of my teammates to kill another one of your team.
iīve just remembered, that silver surfer can fight against quasar and send his surfboard to help his team mates, some hits of the board in psylocke and she gets konocked out .
Surferīs board power:
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in here surfer is fighting a guy that had Gladiator energy + years of absorbing powers(he absorb countless) + Uni power and surfer beats him while he was trying to absorb his power
Tells the Thing that he can see past, present and Future (in the prep time he could see the future to see how he copuld win the fight lolol, sorry i couldnīt resist)
Sorry to all for the multiple posts, iīm not at home and iīm having problems with this computer, and some doubts about the correct way of doing this, once again sorry for the inconvinient.
Surfer without board = sitting target ... very bad move.
Ronan is so far below Herald level that that "feat" means nothing.
He wont have time to heal anyone as Quasar will be kicking the crap out of him
That isn't phasing, he's rearranging the molecules in front of him to let him through.
Most of your scans aren't working (mainly the Photobucket ones)
Surfer wont be holding shields over anyone when he's fighting someone himself... his fields require his constant energy input to stay up ... unlike Quasar's.
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