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Though that's true, they've switched rosters before, if Sue is pregnant or Reed goes on Sabbatical.

Now Storm and Panther have white slaves. Huzzah.


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Hudlins writing !


Dear sweet jesus this thing is f*cked. No hope now , their (The F4) going to be getting race hate calls and the thing is going to be doing stereotypical jewish things while Johnny makes stupid 'black jokes' even though he's had no history of it beforehand.

ARGH i can see it all flashing before my very eyes.


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Hudlin is not writing this series. McDuffie is. Hudlin probably will write the other FF characters in his BP series though


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Am I the only one who about fell off of their chair when they read that? May of just been me though...

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Hudlins writing !


Dear sweet jesus this thing is f*cked. No hope now , their (The F4) going to be getting race hate calls and the thing is going to be doing stereotypical jewish things while Johnny makes stupid 'black jokes' even though he's had no history of it beforehand.

ARGH i can see it all flashing before my very eyes.


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*continues ignoring 616 F4*


Post-Waid/Wieringo FF? Ignore

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*continues ignoring 616 F4*


i didnt before, but i will now... thats a pretty shitty fantastic four imo... yeah, they'll stomp galactus for sure... roll eyes (sarcastic)

could i BE any more patronising? i doubt it... f*ck you marvel...

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I don't get what Marvel's thinking, here.

Now, I'm not a huge Marvel fan, and my FF knowledge is pitiful, but it seems to me that some teams can change members, and some teams just can't. X-Men, JLA, Avengers, Defenders, JSA ... they've been gaining and losing members since they were first introduced. You want to remove two members from the X-Men and replace them with two new members, and nobody will give a damn. Same with all the others.

But that Fantastic Four? The Fantastic Four are Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, and Thing. Everybody knows this. I've never picked up an issue of Fantastic Four in my life, and I know their roster. There's litchen on Mars that knows the Fantastic Four's roster. They're not like the X-Men or the Avengers, where you can alter their roster and nobody cares. They're iconic.

Well, that's how it seems to me. I don't know what Marvel is thinking.


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i didnt before, but i will now... thats a pretty shitty fantastic four imo... yeah, they'll stomp galactus for sure... roll eyes (sarcastic)


Actually Panther is very resourceful. He's beaten the Fantastic Four on his own before. Plus Storm is hella powerful when she cuts loose. Implying that the team is weak (or stupid) portrays a lack of knowledge about the characters


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Actually Panther is very resourceful. He's beaten the Fantastic Four on his own before. Plus Storm is hella powerful when she cuts loose. Implying that the team is weak (or stupid) portrays a lack of knowledge about the characters


They have no real intelligence on the team, the most powerful member is gone.(IW) Storm is a sh*t to her. BP is Reeds little toe in smarts.


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Actually Panther is very resourceful. He's beaten the Fantastic Four on his own before. Plus Storm is hella powerful when she cuts loose. Implying that the team is weak (or stupid) portrays a lack of knowledge about the characters


it doesnt actually... in comparison to their predecessors (and their predecessors roles within the f4), they are rather weak... IW has ten times the power that storm has (even in civil war recently she stopped a full on lightningblast from clor, whose hammer was at least partly designed by reed himself). i'm not saying panther isnt resourceful or intelligent, but he doesnt compare to reed when it comes to pure scientific smarts... erm

hell, reed is the one they went to when they needed to build a prison to hold superheroes...


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it doesnt actually... in comparison to their predecessors (and their predecessors roles within the f4), they are rather weak... IW has ten times the power that storm has (even in civil war recently she stopped a full on lightningblast from clor, whose hammer was at least partly designed by reed himself). i'm not saying panther isnt resourceful or intelligent, but he doesnt compare to reed when it comes to pure scientific smarts... erm


Storm is not a weakling. I'll let some Storm fans educate you here but just cause she can't make shields doesn't make her weak. She's definitely more powerful than Crystal and she was on the FF.

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hell, reed is the one they went to when they needed to build a prison to hold superheroes...


They went to Reed because he's already registered. Why would they go out of their way to get Panther if Reed is willing and able? Reed has acknowlegded Panther's genuis many times in the past so why is it an issue here? Plus Ant-Man filled on for Reed before and Panther is definitely smarter than he is


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Storm is not a weakling. I'll let some Storm fans educate you here but just cause she can't make shields doesn't make her weak. She's definitely more powerful than Crystal and she was on the FF.


trust me, i know storm... i've read most of the x-men comics ever written (bar the original x-factor, which i cant seem to get my hands on for love nor money sad), so i think i know a little bit about her. i didn't say she was a weakling at all, all i said was that she isn't on sue's level, which is correct...

and it has nothing to do with shields, it has to do with going up against the kind of enemies the f4 does on a daily basis...

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They went to Reed because he's already registered. Why would they go out of their way to get Panther if Reed is willing and able? Reed has acknowlegded Panther's genuis many times in the past so why is it an issue here? Plus Ant-Man filled on for Reed before and Panther is definitely smarter than he is


reed is also probably the smartest man in marvel... im not saying panther is stupid at all, he's a great leader, and wakanda (sp?) is one of the most technologically advanced countries on marvel earth. all i'm saying is that he's below reed, its not as if he's in bad company, peter parker, beast, those guys are smart too, but they arent up with reed are they?

and pym is a frickin genius, he's as close to reed as anyone is...


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The FF4 is all about cosmic threats.

If I were facing Galactus, I would want the Invisible Woman on my side. Not Storm. What's she gonna do? Rain on him?

If I were facing Abraxas, I would want Richards on my side. Panther is smart...but not Richards smart.

erm


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What's she gonna do? Rain on him? erm


he could always use her to help wash down that last planet... stick out tongue


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If I were facing Galactus, I would want the Invisible Woman on my side. Not Storm. What's she gonna do? Rain on him?

Instant hurricanes made of tornados that are made of lightning, instantly. Instantly at mach 6.


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Storm is not a weakling. I'll let some Storm fans educate you here but just cause she can't make shields doesn't make her weak. She's definitely more powerful than Crystal and she was on the FF.
Crystal can be very powerful when it's for something she cares about. And she'd beat Storm. erm
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*continues ignoring 616 F4*


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Instant hurricanes made of tornados that are made of lightning, instantly. Instantly at mach 6.




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Whatever. You just can't please some people. Personally I'll be picking this up


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I'll probably stop reading FF again after the Civil War/Thor shenanigans are over.

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Why does the link in the first post lead to a site that says "Classified Information," and does not show in any way a new F4 line-up?


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