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Thanos vs Superman
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h1a8
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin fought pretty well against Celestials. One Watcher would get his ass handed to him as well. A race of Odins is another matter altogether. I said the comic and the fact his powers are due to absorption on top of catching him off guard is all canon anyway, kiddo.


When has Odin fought well against Celestials? Him and the entire pantheon of gods with a 2000ft Destroyer got messed up.

By portrayal Watchers and Odin are peers. And I don't recall Rulk using any absorption on the Watcher. Is that what you are claiming?


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When has Odin fought well against Celestials? Him and the entire pantheon of gods with a 2000ft Destroyer got messed up.

By portrayal Watchers and Odin are peers. And I don't recall Rulk using any absorption on the Watcher. Is that what you are claiming?
Odin was fighting the entire host. He was lopping off parts but the combined host destroyed him. Comparing one guy to an entire race is seriously even bad for you. Rulk didn't announce when he was absorbing. You're wrong. I am right.


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Superman wins


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Superman wins
How ?


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Normal standard Thanos vs. normal standard Superman, sorry but Ive got to side with Thanos here.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
How ?

By koing him with strikes.
Superman's faster, has better fighting skill, and has killer options like

1. Freeze breath (to momentarily slow Thanos down a notch)
2. Intangibility


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By koing him with strikes.
Superman's faster, has better fighting skill, and has killer options like

1. Freeze breath (to momentarily slow Thanos down a notch)
2. Intangibility
Thanos has shields, greater durability, and is far more powerful. Superman struggles with characters well beneath Thanos such as Orion, Captain Marvel, Hal Jordan, etc. Superman isn't on his level.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has shields, greater durability, and is far more powerful. Superman struggles with characters well beneath Thanos such as Orion, Captain Marvel, Hal Jordan, etc. Superman isn't on his level.

Thanos only has greater durability against energy blasts, not greater blunt force durability.

More powerful is ambiguous and has no bearing on a fight in specific.
Thanos has shields, but can't attack while they are up.
Superman is faster and thus can hit Thanos far more times than Thanos hits him.

ABC doesn't work here. Any given character can have the right tools to beat any other character (like Rock paper Scissors). Also Orion and CM are powerhouses. Thanos would struggle with either one of them too.


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Thanos only has greater durability against energy blasts, not greater blunt force durability.

More powerful is ambiguous and has no bearing on a fight in specific.
Thanos has shields, but can't attack while they are up.
Superman is faster and thus can hit Thanos far more times than Thanos hits him.

ABC doesn't work here. Any given character can have the right tools to beat any other character (like Rock paper Scissors). Also Orion and CM are powerhouses. Thanos would struggle with either one of them too.
Based on what character beating him up with their fists ? Thanos is more cunning and will use his shields effectively. He's done so in the past. Thanos has taken on characters far more powerful than either Orion or Captain Marvel. Thanos has taken on someone capable of obliterating galaxies before. Superman's level isn't up to Thanos it's down with the Surfers of the multiverse.


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Based on what character beating him up with their fists ? Thanos is more cunning and will use his shields effectively. He's done so in the past. Thanos has taken on characters far more powerful than either Orion or Captain Marvel. Thanos has taken on someone capable of obliterating galaxies before. Superman's level isn't up to Thanos it's down with the Surfers of the multiverse.



So has Superman taken on characters more powerful than Orion and CM. Hell Superman lifted infinite weight before but you don't see me using that.
ABC logic doesn't work Quan. Rock paper scissors remember.

Superman's speed seals the deal here.
Superman also has intangibility as an option as well.
And freeze breath would be too unfair here.


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So has Superman taken on characters more powerful than Orion and CM. Hell Superman lifted infinite weight before but you don't see me using that.
ABC logic doesn't work Quan. Rock paper scissors remember.

Superman's speed seals the deal here.
Superman also has intangibility as an option as well.
And freeze breath would be too unfair here.
So did another version of Captain Marvel. Odin's blasts are far more powerful than Captain Marvel's attaks or Orion's.

Shields. Superman can't touch him. Thanos has beaten far faster characters before as well. This is no different. Thanos is too cunning to lose to Superman and far too powerful.


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So did another version of Captain Marvel. Odin's blasts are far more powerful than Captain Marvel's attaks or Orion's.

Shields. Superman can't touch him. Thanos has beaten far faster characters before as well. This is no different. Thanos is too cunning to lose to Superman and far too powerful.


I didn't claim Superman will beat Thanos by blasting him with HV. So using arguments of Thanos resisting blasts is moot. Hell I even said that Thanos has better durability against blasts than Superman.

For the most part Superman won't touch Thanos while his shields up (neither will Thanos touch Superman). In theory or there's a chance that, Superman will simply phase through the shields reaching Thanos.

Thanos has beaten fast characters (not faster in combat) only when they were not using their top speed against him.


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Thanos made Galactus put effort into a power blast.. He's been blasted by Surfer standing literally in his face, and didn't even react to his attack. He's gone toe to toe with warrior madness Thor with Power Gem, who was one shot defeating just about everyone else. He's survived attacks from multiple high end cosmic beings, like Omega and Tyrant.

There's literally nothing Supeman can do to hurt him. Even if Thanos just stands there and takes it, I can't see Supes doing serious damage.

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Thanos made Galactus put effort into a power blast.. He's been blasted by Surfer standing literally in his face, and didn't even react to his attack. He's gone toe to toe with warrior madness Thor with Power Gem, who was one shot defeating just about everyone else. He's survived attacks from multiple high end cosmic beings, like Omega and Tyrant.

There's literally nothing Supeman can do to hurt him. Even if Thanos just stands there and takes it, I can't see Supes doing serious damage.

You don't want to go high end feats route here, superman has them in abundance. He has taken hits from ZH parallax, he has literally walked through an all out blast by an Ion amped kyle rayner, he has gone toe to toe with Time-trapper SBP and made him spit blood which is more than what thanos did to thor. Superman has taken shots from omnipotents like Emperor Joker and shrugged them off, he's even walked through an all out magical attacks from an elder god. Also, superman not even able to hurt thanos is laughable.


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The problem here, is those showings I mentioned are more like Thanos's upper "average" showings..

You won't find a lot of bad showings against characters on the high end brick tier.. Even a weaker Thanos Clone required Thor bringing in Skyfather empowered weapons to defeat him.

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The problem here, is those showings I mentioned are more like Thanos's upper "average" showings..

You won't find a lot of bad showings against characters on the high end brick tier.. Even a weaker Thanos Clone required Thor bringing in Skyfather empowered weapons to defeat him.

So are superman's high end feats. He just stops holding back and its been a part of his character since his beginnings.

Normal thanos got buttraped by bendis avengers and that clone was amped.


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So are superman's high end feats. He just stops holding back and its been a part of his character since his beginnings.

Normal thanos got buttraped by bendis avengers and that clone was amped.


confused really?


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So are superman's high end feats. He just stops holding back and its been a part of his character since his beginnings.

Normal thanos got buttraped by bendis avengers and that clone was amped.


I'm curious abhi....Do u believe Superman wins? If so, how strongly do u feel on the matter? Like strong enough that u would battlezone the issue?

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Thanos made Galactus put effort into a power blast.. He's been blasted by Surfer standing literally in his face, and didn't even react to his attack. He's gone toe to toe with warrior madness Thor with Power Gem, who was one shot defeating just about everyone else. He's survived attacks from multiple high end cosmic beings, like Omega and Tyrant.

There's literally nothing Supeman can do to hurt him. Even if Thanos just stands there and takes it, I can't see Supes doing serious damage.



The biggest fallacy of your entire argument is that you assume somehow that
Energy blasts= blunt force strikes.

Superman has withstood Skyfather level blasts too, etc.

Thor with PG wasn't more than 2x stronger than his normal self. A normal Thor has one shot heralds. But you are referring to Drax I know (this was the only feat you have). DP Tyrant aint really shit tbh. Glads went toe to toe with him blast wise. Yes he's higher than a herald but not much more than that IMO. Thanos use shielding to help protect him against Omega and Galactus. Who knows how long he was exposed? Superman can withstand their blasts for a certain amount of time too.


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oh man, i remember this thread. not my finest moments on kmc. laughing out loud if you look back around pgs 30-40 you'll see someone claimed that thanos was at LEAST 1000x stronger than superman. i didn't really do a great job in that particular discussion (a rare time where someone on the site really, actually p!ssed me off laughing out loud ) but still, funny to look back. since someone just opened a thanos/superman lifting thread, it made me think of this one.

bump. big grin


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