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Mimic (Exiles) Vs Colossus --- Claws Vs Skin

Not a straight fight (as, I think, Mimic would stomp on Colossus)

Exiles Mimic's power = Wolverine, Deadpool, Northstar, Cyclops & Colossus (all at 50% power)

I'm wondering about the durability Vs claws factor.

A lot of people question whether Wolverine can cut Colossus ... most say he can't because he doesn't have enough strength.

Now Mimic, in metal form, has half of Colossus's strength/durability.
He also has Wolverine's, denser than human bone claws.
So when in metal form his bones would be almost equal to Colossus' bone strength.

Bone strength >>>> skin strength

As Mimic's claws are made from this bone, I think they should be capable of slicing straight through Colossus like Wolverine's bone claws through a low durability superhuman (like Spider-Man or someone)

Any thoughts?


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Doesn't Colossus entire body become metal?

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Does it mean Mimic's claws are half as durable as "unbreakable" adamantiumsmile

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Does it mean Mimic's claws are half as durable as "unbreakable" adamantiumsmile
he does not adamantium. thats not one of wolvys powers

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he does not adamantium. thats not one of wolvys powers



That was kinda my point, unless he has something that is more durable then Colossus I don't see him cutting into him without possibly taking damage himself.

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Aaaargghhh..... read the post.

Mimic has Wolverine's extra durable skeleton (still bone though)

When he transforms into Colossus mode his bones also transform.

His claws are made of those bones.

So can razor sharp Claws made out of material over half as strong as Colossus' bones cut through Colossus' skin easily?


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Half the speed of Northstar? even if he didn't have the physical power a hundred blows in a second would still do serious damage.


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Half the speed of Northstar? even if he didn't have the physical power a hundred blows in a second would still do serious damage.


Yeah... but the thread is mainly about his claws against Colossus' skin.

I basically think it's as simple as a sharpened human bone being shoved into someone ... should go in with very little trouble.

Just wanted to see how others saw it happening


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Your right though, by all logic Mimic should generate enough force to perice Colossus skin. Still going to be hard to prove, even though I feel he could do it.


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Originally posted by Scoobless
Aaaargghhh..... read the post.

Mimic has Wolverine's extra durable skeleton (still bone though)

When he transforms into Colossus mode his bones also transform.

His claws are made of those bones.

So can razor sharp Claws made out of material over half as strong as Colossus' bones cut through Colossus' skin easily?
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That was kinda my point, unless he has something that is more durable then Colossus I don't see him cutting into him without possibly taking damage himself.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
Aaaargghhh..... read the post.

Mimic has Wolverine's extra durable skeleton (still bone though)

When he transforms into Colossus mode his bones also transform.

His claws are made of those bones.

So can razor sharp Claws made out of material over half as strong as Colossus' bones cut through Colossus' skin easily?


Didn't those claws break on several occassions? As I recall, Hyperion broke his claws + hand (kinda like squeezing an empty can) but I am almost sure they also broke in a fight, either against Iron Man, or against Namor or someone else with not-Hyperion-level durability.

So the situation is sort of like this.

Without backing the claw hit with superstrength or with Northstar's half speed, Mimic wouldn't hurt Colossus. If he does back it up, then there is enough momentum, but the claw material IMO is not tough enough to pierce Colossus' skin.

So that's my answer for the claw vs. steel skin thing.

All in all, Mimic DOES stomp Colossus, especially with the abilities you mentioned. However, claw vs. steel.....nah.

But....he looks like crap however, cause he's got deadpool's skin thing too sad


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Didn't those claws break on several occassions? As I recall, Hyperion broke his claws + hand (kinda like squeezing an empty can) but I am almost sure they also broke in a fight, either against Iron Man, or against Namor or someone else with not-Hyperion-level durability.

So the situation is sort of like this.

Without backing the claw hit with superstrength or with Northstar's half speed, Mimic wouldn't hurt Colossus. If he does back it up, then there is enough momentum, but the claw material IMO is not tough enough to pierce Colossus' skin.


Exiles Hyperion >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colossus

They broke when they were only bone one time ... don't think they ever broke as metal claws (other than against Hyperion)

When his claws are metal it's because he has turned to metal and he has 50% of Colossus' strength. That should be more than enough to back them up.


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They broke when they were only bone one time ... don't think they ever broke as metal claws (other than against Hyperion)


No I don't recall off the top of my head them breaking in metal form, and I have the entire series. I will reread the Namor fight though to be sure


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Reread Exiles #15, and his claws never broke in the issue he never even used them against Namor.


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I dont think they can break through Colossus's skin.

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Exiles Hyperion >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colossus

They broke when they were only bone one time ... don't think they ever broke as metal claws (other than against Hyperion)

When his claws are metal it's because he has turned to metal and he has 50% of Colossus' strength. That should be more than enough to back them up.


I also have the entire series and I don't really recall seeing them turn to metal....maybe when he was fighting the doombots before the Namor fight? I really can't recall them in any other form than bone. And seeing as how they were shown as bone in many times although since the very beginning of the series till he dies he has half of colossus' powers, I don't understand why sometimes they would be bone, and other times metal...doesn't sound right....I've seen them as bone when he was in steel form, so you can't say "they're metal when he's in steel form, and bone when he's normal", so........why would they be metal sometimes and bone other times?

The way I see it is that it was just something....of a graphical nature + perhaps the writer just didn't see it as something of great importance.


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Just look at what he did to Hyperion. And I think Colossus isn't as tough as Hyperion. He could pull of something I'm sure of it.


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Against the doombots they didn't break either, I checked. The claws cut them like butter.


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And the Namor fight I forgot to mention...


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