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GalacticStorm
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The top hosts like Jean Grey can amputate an entire timeline from the multiverse in seconds-

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Or manipulate the atomic structure of an entire universe in the palm of her hand-

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And thats just the hosts of which there are many in the multiverse at once. The full Phoenix Force is multiversal and way beyond Eternity.


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Eternity ftw!!

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Eternity ftw!!


Based on what?

Eternitys a universe, the kind of which the forces top hosts can easily destroy and manipulate.

Eternity states on panel himself that without the force he would not exist, its power and role facilitate his creation every universal life cycle.

Read the scans dont just blindly stick to your existing opinion smile


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Eternity states on panel himself that without the force he would not exist, its power and role facilitate his creation every universal life cycle.


Except Eternity never says any such thing. Happy Dance


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^ Should be after. Phoenixforce is still romping around Kree space in Avengers #26 and hasn't arrived in Earth space yet, which it does in Avengers vs X-Men #4.


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stating that eternity surpasses the phoenix force seems unlikely imo
i would say the phoenix outclasses eternity indefinitely
the fact that she ensues the cosmic rebirth cycle, it's pretty evident that she reigns superior to him
not even necessarily a phoenix fan
just going off the scans and what has been stated numerous times


and if i can recall, she preserved galaan until he could meet with the prior universes version of a dying eternity to merge and become galactus


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Originally posted by Mr.SunKing
[B][B]stating that eternity surpasses the phoenix force seems unlikely imo
i would say the phoenix outclasses eternity indefinitely
the fact that she ensues the cosmic rebirth cycle, it's pretty evident that she reigns superior to him
not even necessarily a phoenix fan
just going off the scans and what has been stated numerous times


She got her wings clipped by Thor. She's the spark of recreation, not the creator. Eternity is everything in creation. Oblivion is the end of creation.

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and if i can recall, she preserved galaan until he could meet with the prior universes version of a dying eternity to merge and become galactus


Loled, no she didn't. And how does her keeping Galan alive make her more powerful than Eternity?


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Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
She got her wings clipped by Thor. She's the spark of recreation, not the creator. Eternity is everything in creation. Oblivion is the end of creation.



Loled, no she didn't. And how does her keeping Galan alive make her more powerful than Eternity?

never stated she was the creator

and if the rest of the scan was posted you would find that Thor got damaged pretty badly

and far as preserving Galactus when the universe was dying?
yes she did,
also wasn't Big G shown to be equivalent to Eternity and Death?

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[B][B]never stated she was the creator

and if the rest of the scan was posted you would find that Thor got damaged pretty badly


Thor isn't even on Eternity's level and he still clipped the birds wing. Remember when the Shi'Ar guns blew it up? Or when Xorn used a planets energy to kill it? The Phoenix Force jobs more than Eternity.


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and far as preserving Galactus when the universe was dying?
yes she did,
also wasn't Big G shown to be equivalent to Eternity and Death?


Big G is the result of a humanoid alien and the old Eternity merging. Phoenix did not give Galan his status as Galactus, the previous Eternity did.

Which issue are u referring to it preserving Galan?


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There is no issue he's referring too, because it never happened.
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and far as preserving Galactus when the universe was dying?
yes she did,

laughing

And uhm, actually she did not.


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Big G is the result of a humanoid alien and the old Eternity merging. Phoenix did not give Galan his status as Galactus, the previous Eternity did.

Which issue are u referring to it preserving Galan?


I don't know the exact issue but the event is referenced in his handbook entry :
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I don't know the exact issue but the event is referenced in his handbook entry :

I have the issue.

I use handbooks if they comply with what took place on panel,
in this particular instance, the handbook is wrong. (this isn't a special case btw)

So it's info concerning that incident is moot .. void.


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Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thor isn't even on Eternity's level and he still clipped the birds wing. Remember when the Shi'Ar guns blew it up? Or when Xorn used a planets energy to kill it? The Phoenix Force jobs more than Eternity.




Big G is the result of a humanoid alien and the old Eternity merging. Phoenix did not give Galan his status as Galactus, the previous Eternity did.

Which issue are u referring to it preserving Galan?

it was referenced in a handbook


also , eternity was badly wounded by Giraud the weakest phoenix avatar, you're telling me Giraud would pwn eternity?
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n essence, that showing with Thor means little to nothing
seeing how it did little to nothing
yet Thor was wounded badly, hell , didn't he just crash smack into the moon after trying to confront it?

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I don't know the exact issue but the event is referenced in his handbook entry :
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This is the incident you're referring too. It's not the Phoenix Force since it is not the sentience of the universe. Eternity is the sentience of the universe.

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