No, it's not from that issue. I think it was from Adventures of the X-men. I didn't even think that series was canon but it's referenced in the handbooks AND the Nova Corps files during the Annihilation event.
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On panel >>> Handbook
Where'd you get this from?
You must be referring to Giraud cauterizing an alternate Eternity's (691) wound.
It was akin to placing a hot metal tip on an open wound to prevent infection.
Yes it was a nice,
but he couldn't and didn't heal that alternate Eternity,
691 Eternity did that on his own.
... and heh, he definitely was not wounded by Giraud,
that was Bubonicus with stipulations.
I think Thor's showing is incredible.
The real PF is mighty, (not the hyped up fallacy created in kmc)
for Thor to momentarily stalemate that is truly impressive.
He managed to clip it's wings. (he damaged it and knows it can be defeated, he said)
The second time around Thor wtfboombashed it's form across space,
then the PF reformed and the heroes were amazed.
* If you take into account the garbage perpetrated by some concerning the PF,
Thor just did what I said to the "energies of creation" "the saviour of Galactus"
"the reason Eternity/Infinity even have purpose"
"greater than the Heart of the Infinite"
and ...
when the force manifest, it's pure psionic /cosmic energy if the weapons are powerful enough of course it can affect it but not DESTROY it, considering that the force has an endless supply of energy?
and far as jobbing, eternity got man handled by the infinites yet just ONE of them needed to sacrifice its existence to preserve a planet? also
just out of curiosity, how WOULD you rank the cosmic hierarchy?
in the past i felt eternity had superiority over the phoenix however
my decision changed due to the fact that i assumed she was excluded from the cosmic rebirth cycle, i need bit more clarification on that
DOES the phoenix die then is reborn into the new universe? or does it just continue to just monitor/guide the process???
i won't discredit Thor
that is a good showing on his part , but on the larger scale of things
i don't think it's enough to show her rankings with Eternity
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Actually Galactus nearly erased the PF from existence,
and so did the Neutron Galaxy (universal destroyer) within the Mkraan Crystal.
Heck, that Alien Ship from the Ultraverse nearly killed the PF in torturous fashion.
Actually Eternity was growing in the Infinite's hand
and then he was bfr into the Dimension of Manifestations.
So who knows where that was going.
That aside, that Infinite didn't sacrifice himself to re-create a Planet
he died to re-create all the Planets across all the Galaxies
they manhandled across the Multiverse.
And the main purpose was to merge with that Planet,
to experience life through mortal eyes.
Re-creating those countless Planets was just a gesture for their atrocities.
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Creator/TOAA creates everything including the abstracts.
Universe dies, Galan merges with old universe in a cosmic egg. Most abstracts, including the PF dies.
Entropy occurs.
Oblivion reigns over the void of space.
Phoenix ressurects itself as the spark of creation, creating the big bang.
Entropy expands outward and becomes Eternity. Death also enters the world.
The egg eventually hatches into Galactus.
The PF is part of the cycle, not above the cycle. The Tribunal is it's guardian.
i wouldn't rank HOM Wanda so high to hang with the abstracts,
or even above the phoenix and eternity
but i'll save that for another thread, a huge misconception i tend to see
also, Jeans echo protected Rachel from the Wanda's warp i believe
and also it was revealed the Phoenix undid Wanda's "no more mutants" spell
but yeah in reference to the earlier comment, Xorn killed JEAN not the phoenix, from what i can recall it was revealed in "here comes tomorrow" that jean needed to die in order to appear 150 years later into the future to stop sublime, orchestrated by the phoenix
as part of her "disinfection" plan
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Wanda consciously re-created the 616 Reality
and turned into her private playground. (reality 58163)
She simultaneously ripped open a hole in what was 616,
and her power split out into the rest of the Omniverse,
tearing the whole freaking thing to pieces.
At the end of the arc,
Wanda consciously reverted everything back to normal,
(this included re-creating 616, aside from from restructuring the Omniverse)
she also erased the Mutant gene from 90% of the race across all Timelines.
All simultaneously, all with a thought.
No need, explained above.
That's not true at all.
Jamie Braddock saved them by getting her and Betsy out of annihilation's way.
No one was immune to Wanda' warp.
Only Meggan after absorbing the Omniversal nexus Universe that is Otherworld,
plus the power of the Beyonders,
was able to slow down the wave for a moment,
immediately after she was overwhelmed and stomped.
That's not true either.
There has been no connection between the "Life-Force" and the "Phoenix Force"
In fact, when Doom acquired the power of the "Life Force"
the Phoenix was just another of its subjects in the artistic depiction.
In fact, going by it's latest showings, I think we can say for certain this is the case.
Thor stalemating the Force a short while then clipping its wings,
Uru affecting the Force due to Odin's "all powerfulness" lol,
Thor blasting its form in space, then it reconstituted.
This is also not true, and in fact, completely made up.
I have to work out so I can't explain right now, see ya later.
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It's most recent showings are indeed pathetic for an "abstract" assuming it is considered one now. Is it even a Skyfather level being? I don't think so.
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Thor caused it to run in one of those instances, so I'd call that a draw at least. As we've seen Mjolnir can affect it because of Odin's "all powerful" enchantments. Hell as of now it looks like Odinforce > PF.
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