What's the big deal with Roger Moore? I liked him but I could never see that guy being a big top secret agent... he just doesn't look tough enough
but yeah I think connery may be a bit overrated. He's definetely better than Moore, Dalton and Lazensby (or however the hell you spell his name) but I actually really liked Brosnan with Craig being my favorite
Last edited by Spartan005 on Oct 23rd, 2008 at 04:49 PM
I reckon Connery is the best Bond. As a child (I'm 35 now) I liked Moore the best, as he was then the current bond, and i liked his witty humour. As I got older though, I began to appreciate what Connery brought to the role. He had more charisma, and he had an inherent toughness (in real life he was a womanising brawler-well hes was brought up in Edinbrugh) which made his Bond far more formidable. The sort of person who would be good to go out with on a Friday night, getting drunk and trying to pull women. Moore is still a close 2nd however.
I think brosnan has a lot of bond-charm but had sucky stories (everytime it was a wmd... where's the time the story was about mi6 knowing it was a trap and sending bond in to play along and hope it would work out?)
and here too I think it is because of the stories: Craig hasn't gotten a story yet where he can use the bond charm, up till now it was hectic and revenge...
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I saw Connery first but I liked Brosnan best. I think he had some crappy follow up movies after Goldeneye (which I think is one of the better Bond movies) but I still like his Bond the best. Connery next. Then Moore.
I don't really fancy Craig's too much but I don't know if it him or the reboot seeming to be so unBondlike to me
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Its funny you should say that. Moore was my first James Bond back when I was a teenager. That was "The Man With The Golden Gun" which I saw on tv. The first one I saw at the theater was "The Spy Who Loved Me." When I finally saw a Connery Bond, I didn't like him. I thought he was basically a thug in a suit. I later really liked the Dalton Bond because he came across the most like the books in my opinion.
But then much, much later, rewatching the movies, I saw things I hadn't noticed as a teenager. I began to realize the little nuances Connery brought to the role. Moore was just too tongue -in-cheek (even though seeing him in interviews I really like him on a personal level), Lazenby too wooden, Dalton had the cold-bloodedness down at times but without any humor about it, Brosnan was suave but sort of Connery-lite. Craig in the restart has the advantage of playing Bond in a whole different dramatic atmosphere. He's good but, as one woman I know put it, he's more neanderthal than any actor that ever played Bond before.
Connery had the "I'd as soon kill you as look at you" attitude of a professional assassin yet he had a way of 'letting the audience in on it' with a quick facial expression or a smirk but without going overboard and playing it only for laughs like Moore later did.
Now, all that said, I have to agree with something Desmond Llewelyn (Q) once said when asked which actor of the ones he knew (all of them except Craig) was the best Bond. Of course he said the diplomatic 'All of them brought different good qualities to the role' type stuff but then he said, "I cannot tell you who was the best but I can tell you who most fans think was the best- whichever one they saw first."
I've got to admit that, once I saw them all, I really loved the days when Bond was going up against Spectre and Smersh. In some respects, taking Bond out of the 1960s is like taking Sherlock Holmes out of the Victorian era.
When you think about it, even by Dalton's era, the Bond movies were undergoing a soft reboot. Dalton went up against some sub-division of the KGB that had a name that basically amounted to SMERSH and I found it kind of sad that they almost had to pretend this was something new and wondered why they couldn't just say, 'So I'm going up against Smersh again."
Even when I was in college starting in the late 1970s, it was the Moore era and I discovered Bond. I watched the old movies but I was surprised when my friends and I went to see "For Your Eyes Only". At the start of the movie, I whispered to my friends, "You know who that is, right?" Referring to the guy in the wheelchair with the white cat. None of them knew. Just as they never knew Bond had been married. So I found myself saying, Blofeld, its supposed to be Blofeld. This is the tenth anniversary of their last encounter." Of course the response was, "Who's Blofeld?" That was before they started watching Bond movies and they weren't interested enough to watch the older ones.
Sigh. I do think the new Bond movies are great on their own merits but its sort of sad when the parodies seem more like a James Bond movie than the Bond movies do.
I never warmed to Connery's performances, he just played it dead, without any charisma or sense of importance to how the scene was going. He has memorable moments in the films though ('do you expect me to talk?') and would usually come to life only when the woman were wheeled out before him.
Even Dalton, who many people considered to be wooden or too cold gave the plot more of himself than Connery.