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EVANGEL94's 2nd SLUGFEST SHOWDOWN TOURNAMENT: Typhus vs King Kandy (Vote Now!)
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King KAM
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Originally posted by Typhus
No, he's e-meta - period. If for some reason Kandy tried to sneak him in when he's really herald+, then his power gets capped so that he doesn't surpass the level's power. And this level's model was none other than "Enhanced meta = war machine". That would make them equals in power, but WM has much more arsenal. Genis is going down.
Genis still has sheilds and blasts to negate out everything war machine throws at him. all the missles will be detonated before they get there and the bullets are usless, and as for War machine flying fast? Genis is still faster, even if his powers are being capped.


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Legacy Genis is no match for any reasonable herald or Herald Level.

But he's more then a match for War Machine.


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Originally posted by King KAM
If this is a serious Genis who isnt being a pussy, or poorly written. With his God-like powers??? He lays waste to everyone on the other squad, morg is too slow to keep up with him.

But without going over board on Genis, War Machine and Emma are as good as dead...seriously, nothing war machine has comes close to hurting Genis, and Emma is nothing but a target.

Morg cant take the whole team by himself...or can he?


Genis was drafted in the enhanced meta category. I realize alot of people blatantly tried cheating by sneaking in powerful characters into the lower levels.

Any herald level characters that got snuck into enhanced meta and below get their powers capped at enhanced meta. They are not doing any herald level attacks or powers.

King Kandy, you realize any attempt to sneak in herald level characters into e.meta or below get their power levels severely reduced.


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I didn't try and sneak anyone in. Back when Genis-Vell was known as Legacy, his power level was quite definatly E-Meta.


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Genis was drafted in the enhanced meta category. I realize alot of people blatantly tried cheating by sneaking in powerful characters into the lower levels.

Any herald level characters that got snuck into enhanced meta and below get their powers capped at enhanced meta. They are not doing any herald level attacks or powers.

King Kandy, you realize any attempt to sneak in herald level characters into e.meta or below get their power levels severely reduced.
i realize this...but he is still over War Machine...i mean...come on...


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i realize this...but he is still over War Machine...i mean...come on...


I specified War Machine as the max power level for the enhanced meta caetgory. Legacy genis-vell will get his power level reduced to whatever lower level necessary for War Machine to pose a serious threat to him. No character drafted into enhanced meta will surpass the category powerset whatsoever.


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Look, you haven't provided any proof as to how Erica has a snowflake's chance in hell against Morg, and your team is disjointed and weak. I've countered your initial strategy. War Machine is a prime example of an e-meta character and if Genis is that far above him then he's weak herald. With the added support of Emma's mind assaults and illutions Genis will not last long.

EDIT: War Machine is the MAX example of an e-meta character.


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i realize this...but he is still over War Machine...i mean...come on...

Precisly so.


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I specified War Machine as the max power level for the enhanced meta caetgory. Legacy genis-vell will get his power level reduced to whatever lower level necessary for War Machine to pose a serious threat to him. No character drafted into enhanced meta will surpass the category powerset whatsoever.

Legacy Genis-Vell can be threatened by war Machine, and can't hold his own against ANYONE in the Herald category.

He's an E-Meta.

IO mean, Spider-Man was the cap for Metas, but then Carnage and Venom got in anyway. why, because they're in the same tier. They're nowhere near E-Meta, so they have to be Meta.


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Precisly so.


Not so. War Machine is the max for the enhanced meta category. You're character will be reduced to levels capable of war machine being able to defeat him. I don't tolerate even the slightest cheating. Everyone must be on equal terms.


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Not so. War Machine is the max for the enhanced meta category. You're character will be reduced to levels capable of war machine being able to defeat him.

War Machine can defeat him. But that doesn't mean he nescesarily will.


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War Machine can defeat him. But that doesn't mean he nescesarily will.


Exactly, you get the idea. Now it's up to you argue that. No enhanced meta character can completely overpower another. It's mostly all equal.


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Exactly, you get the idea. Now it's up to you argue that. No enhanced meta character can completely overpower another. It's mostly all equal.

Right. But it's silly to say that No E-Meta can beat War Machine. that's not plausible, nor is it fair.


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War Machine can defeat him. But that doesn't mean he nescesarily will.


Alright, as long as you admit he can. And if he can then he will, and here's why.

Genis will be desprately trying to attack Morg when WM shows up (you said this yourself). WM also has a cloaking device - this gives him the element of surprise.

This isn't regular War Machine. This is WM in the Exo Skeleton, which amplifies all his firepower, shielding, and strength.

Emma will be providing mental assualt/support kipping Genis off guard and under strain. He won't be able to function all full capacity.

There's really no way Genis can survive this assualt, War Machine will be taking him down HARD.


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This isn't regular War Machine. This is WM in the Exo Skeleton, which amplifies all his firepower, shielding, and strength.

Wouldn't that put him OVER Regular War-Machine, who was the cap?


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Not so. War Machine is the max for the enhanced meta category. You're character will be reduced to levels capable of war machine being able to defeat him. I don't tolerate even the slightest cheating. Everyone must be on equal terms.
i feel like Genis doesnt beat war machine because he is stronger, but simply because Genis is better matched up against him.

Genis can be on war machines level, but still genis will take him out, What war machine does just shouldnt work on genis even if War machine is slight "stronger"


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also, Emma won't be able to fully attack genis either. Jack of Hearts can take care of that.


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This isn't regular War Machine. This is WM in the Exo Skeleton, which amplifies all his firepower, shielding, and strength.


But it slows him down and makes him a big, easy target.

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Kandy, stop. The reason Venom&Carnage got in at meta was because the cap was changed. Evangel switched the cap to Venom when I tried to bring him in as meta.

2nd, I just read over Genis-Vell's powers and some of his feats. This guy is at least low level herald. However, the legacy version is a good deal weaker. Thus, the fight is relatively close.


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Exactly, ordinary Genis was originally going to be my draft for Herald. but Legacy is weak enough for E-Meta.


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