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Typhus
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Originally posted by King Kandy
Wouldn't that put him OVER Regular War-Machine, who was the cap?


It's an add on. Regular War Machine is underneath the armor. It doesn't break the cap because it's the same as giving another character a gun. It's a tool to be disgarded once it's damaged beyond repair. It enhances certain abilaties yes, but theres no dramatic advantage gained. Also, you haven't countered any of my points, just pointed out what you thought was an error.


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King Kandy
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Okay.

So then, the war Machine Exo-Suit isn't considered part of the character? Then It's legal to matter Manip it, is it not?


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Hmm. shit. Dude might have a point. Evangel, do you allow it, or no?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay.

So then, the war Machine Exo-Suit isn't considered part of the character? Then It's legal to matter Manip it, is it not?


It's an extra set of armor, and as I specified earlier, direct matter manipulation on a character or any armor he/she wears is not allowed. You can use matter manipulation on the terrain area though.

I interpretated it as the same idea as Iron Man wearing the Hulkbuster armor, but when the armor got too beat up, Iron Man can eject the outter shell and return to using his normal suit.


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Typhus
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Originally posted by Scoobless
But it slows him down and makes him a big, easy target.

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His speed and manuverabilaty are still fairly high:

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Originally posted by Evangel94
It's an extra set of armor, and as I specified earlier, direct matter manipulation on a character or any armor he/she wears is not allowed. You can use matter manipulation on the terrain area though.


In That case, Erica Orders all the energy from the Firestorm into a mountain, and drops it on War Machine and Emma.


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Typhus
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Originally posted by King Kandy
In That case, Erica Orders all the energy from the Firestorm into a mountain, and drops it on War Machine and Emma.


First of all, going by what you said earlier - you didn't think of him as a serious threat and you said how you'd adress the problem. By the time your team realizes what a mistake they've made, Genis is dead, and Erica will be too busy with Morg to do anything of the sort. Also, you haven't provided any proof she's even capable of such feats. Please proovide scans and solid proof when making such claims.


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Alright. Erica reordered an entire city, a mountain isn't much differet.


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Typhus
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Originally posted by King Kandy
Alright. Erica reordered an entire city, a mountain isn't much differet.


1) How is that proof? Scans are acceptable, so are solid bio links. If you don't, it's just character hype.

2) You didn't even attempt to counter my other points.


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Alright. Erica reordered an entire city, a mountain isn't much differet.

do you have scans of this confused


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I don't have a scanner.

Maybe Laminator will scan it for me, he has the comics as well.

It happened in issue five, towards the begining of the issue.


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Originally posted by Typhus
First of all, going by what you said earlier - you didn't think of him as a serious threat and you said how you'd adress the problem. By the time your team realizes what a mistake they've made, Genis is dead, and Erica will be too busy with Morg to do anything of the sort. Also, you haven't provided any proof she's even capable of such feats. Please proovide scans and solid proof when making such claims.
how is genis dead?


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Typhus
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Originally posted by King KAM
how is genis dead?


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Originally posted by Typhus
Alright, as long as you admit he can. And if he can then he will, and here's why.

Genis will be desprately trying to attack Morg when WM shows up (you said this yourself). WM also has a cloaking device - this gives him the element of surprise.

This isn't regular War Machine. This is WM in the Exo Skeleton, which amplifies all his firepower, shielding, and strength.

Emma will be providing mental assualt/support kipping Genis off guard and under strain. He won't be able to function all full capacity.

There's really no way Genis can survive this assualt, War Machine will be taking him down HARD.


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Emma will be too busy with Jack of Hearts.


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Originally posted by Typhus
War Machine gets a cosmic blast, and i pretty much see him falling to the shitter...


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Typhus
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Originally posted by King Kandy
Emma will be too busy with Jack of Hearts.


Why's this? Did you even read my initial strategy? Emma will be providing mental cover from a position over the battlefield. She's also not going to stand out in the open, so how's Jack even going to find her? She can induce headaches and images of multiple War Machines at both your e-meta combatants. They won't be able to fight at anywhere near full capacity with headaches and visions- War Machine ends up taking them down.


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I'd like to remind everyone to let the two participants do the debating and not to do the debating for them. Keep interference to low levels of questioning and comments.


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Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't have a scanner.

Maybe Laminator will scan it for me, he has the comics as well.



I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to post scans in someone else's match (to say nothing of the time it'd take me to dig them out of storage).

I will however say that while I don't recall her doing as independantly interactive as the bomb trap, I don't think the mountain bit is beyond her abilities. Her top feats are pretty wild.

One observer's opinion, albeit an informed one. Decide for yourselves what it's worth.

(What's with all this talk of bunkers and explosions all of a sudden? evil face )


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Typhus
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Originally posted by King KAM
War Machine gets a cosmic blast, and i pretty much see him falling to the shitter...


omg, please pay attention to what's being said. Genis is now e-meta level, regardless of what his potential is. If he can take out War Machine in one hit then he's not. Assuming Morg hasn't already decapitated him, War Machine finishes him off quite easily (for the reasons I stated earlier).

Read what is being written. Respond with paulible senarios...


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Originally posted by Typhus
Why's this? Did you even read my initial strategy? Emma will be providing mental cover from a position over the battlefield. She's also not going to stand out in the open, so how's Jack even going to find her? She can induce headaches and images of multiple War Machines at both your e-meta combatants. They won't be able to fight at anywhere near full capacity with headaches and visions- War Machine ends up taking them down.

I thought you said Emma would be on the empire State building.

Almost Everything is buried in snow, so unless she's under ground, she's going to stick out.


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