Voting Scoobless, based on tactics, counters, and overall team.
Dont think he used or let the rest of the world know on the effectiveness of the Hawkeye's different types of trick/special arrows but alas he still wins. Overall since this is a tournament based on who DEBATED better, and not who seems to us like would win, and seeing as Scoobs presented the case in a logical, persuasive manner I have to vote for him
Obviousely it's not a popularity contest and just to clarify, the three things your supposed to consider are (in order or priority)
1. Team: Which team is stronger?
2. Write-Up: Who presented a possible logical winning strategy?
3. Debate: Who brought up points to swing the battle in their favor?
Anyone who get's at least two out of three in your mind, you should vote for.
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And thus far, I think Scoob's team is stronger, his initial write up was more well thought-out and better written, and his debating strategy has been superior.
So let me understand this, Cable can teleport in the E-Meta category, but Iceman can't use his powers for the same manuver? Makes no sense.
We have an EMP strategy that so far is having no effect on the team.
We have a telepath and a half attempting to tag team Cable and attack Iceman at the same time.
We have a sandstorm that I see no effectiveness in. Then there is also the point of how ANY of either team is going to cover this mass territory if they don't have flight or super speed of any kind.
None of the team protected from this "sandstorm", isn't that what forcefields are for?
Last edited by StarsNeverFall7 on Dec 24th, 2006 at 03:08 AM
Ice-Man doesn't teleport ... you were told his limitations when you drafted him.
It's stopping Batman from using gadgets and stopping the use of any advanced weapons/teleporters
No... they are mainly focusing on Cable, Psylocke is armoured and staying back, Mimic is in the air where Ice-Man can't see him ... as soon as a decent opportunity comes up, Mimic will shatter Ice-Man ... either of these attacks would do it:
And before it comes up, he finds him with telepathy.
You don't? anyone who needs to breath will die ina sandstorm if they don't find some type of cover.... and anyone whose eyes aren't protected wont be seeing sh!t.
Quasar can carry my whole team to wherever they need to go ... Mimic can carry one or two of them as well.
How many of your team can keep up a constant forcefield? just Cable? ... and that's only when he isn't defending himself from a TP assault
I didn't think they'd be amazingly useful in a sandstorm.... over long range anyway.
The armour gives both Hawks an edge in a fight anyway .... and they can always use the arrows as hand held weapons.
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So now were basing this off of a sandstorm that is supposed to effectively cover over half of the battle terrain? Just like the EMP I don't see this working too well.
On a side note this will most likely be close to my last post for this match, I won't be at home or available to a computer until monday or so.
"What's the worst way to go: being buried alive, getting struck by lightning, or being pummeled by flying debris? If you're trapped in a dust storm, you don't have to choose. Dust storms are among nature's most violent and unpredictable phenomena"
yeah but thor could counter it while cable is throwing up a force field to protect the others also if thor can't counter the winds he could just destroy the wind jets
He can't counter it and there's no way he's finding hudreds of wind jets while fighting Quasar..... who can add or replace jets whenever he wants.
Cable will be getting telepathically bashed while this is happening.... I already said all this... did you read it?
So they can hide behind a stationary wall while choking to death ... then as soon as Cable is distracted Mimic smashes the wall to bits and kills Ice-Man.
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Last edited by Scoobless on Dec 24th, 2006 at 04:51 AM
I did read it and I don't buy it thor could lite up the sky with lightening so it doesn't matter how many their are. Also thor is can produce more wind then those jets and your statigy is going to be reversed.
cable can take their tp assults and then some
if the wall is all around them they wont be choking to death they will have a confined place to defend.
you have great point I just don't see them happening
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Yeah i kinda see what Jasofisc meant, Thor could blanket the battle field w/ wind and thunderstorm destroying those construct and blowing the sandstorm back toward Scoobs team, EMP wouldnt work on Cable but he does go down between the assault of the 2 tp's on Scoobs team...
Ive posted stand ups against both the EMP and the "sandstorm" to void them out. Espically with seeing the Quasar can not construct anything during prep on my side of the field, I really dont see the " jet fans" causing ANYWHERE near that kind of sandstorm espically in consideration to the battlefields size.
Id barely put the combination of Psylocke and Mimics 50% Tp on Cables level, even with the TO virus. Not to mention a personal force field that neither Psylocke or Mimic can penetrate, and far surpassing them in arsenal and fighting ability.
We also still seem to be missing the fact of the fog on the field, psylocke and mimic trying both go after cable isn't going to leave them room to be scanning a field to tell anyone anything. This by far gives Batman and Batgirl the advantage to sneak the field and draw opportunity where ever needed to take down as many as possible.
Spider-Man could close his eyes and still fight with his Spidey sense able to mimic almost that of DD's radar. Not to mention he could easily web up a few armored lug heads to get Iced or dealt a few batarangs.
Mimic can have fun messing around with Cable, in the meantime, DP could easily take out the TP Psylocke, her TP isn't going to do anything to him, and I highly doubt her TK attacks are going to far injure him past being able to fight. Not to mention I highly doubt Psylocke or Mimic are going to be in full concentration when you have Peter and Wade, who DONT shut up.
Quasar can do his best with energy attacks and his sheild. The energy attacks are getting no where, and like his constructs, his sheild will eventually go down. In a H2H, Thor isn't letting him get the upper hand.
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