Well, if Roldz is done, I won't hammer away while he's not free to respond. I'll recap a few points and then sign off as well.
Initial strategies:
We spent page after page arguing over weather my initial strategy would work. I won't repeat them here.
Roldz strategy OTOH was an immediate failure. He never presented any justification for how his spotters might overcome Mordo's magical misdirection. He repeated their sensory powers again and again, without bringing any new ideas into play. It was just more "track their energies and shoot them."
I said what my response would be if Ecstacy didn't initially snag Superman. Rolds never posted a single idea for what he might do if he couldn't find us with his scans.
Progress of the Debate
Roldz again and again responded to my moves with things his characters could have done to avoid their fates. Unfortunately these repeatedly contradicted what he had actually said his characters were doing in his write-up or in previous posts. This is a battle, not an odds thread. We need to be judged by what we plan for and do, not by what might've been helpful in hindsight.
I must also point out that his response to my second major attack was to claim powers for Dane beyond what's allowed in his weight-class, and then to again switch tactics after already posting his response.
Alternatives based on your opponents responses are fine, but wanting a do-over because you changed your mind is not.
Some have suggested that I was dictating what his characters would do. Not so. Apart from suggesting that Superman might take the bait for my initial trap (which I didn't argue even once when Roldz write-up said otherwise), all I have done is attempt to hold Roldz to what Roldz said his charcters were doing, and post my next moves accordingly.
Thanks to all, esp Roldz and Evangel, and good night.
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We all know Thanos is quite arrogant and was totally understamating Capt. mainly his strategic tactical merit, its why he was caught off quard by Cloak..
This far differ than the situation presented in this match up, 1st. Off
theres no understamation from either Supes or any of my team against the opponent, 2nd. we were expecting any traps that might present in our situation that is why we remained vigilant and the formation of our group(Dane/Havok/BSupes and Grail in the air just above them, Zealot/Backlash/IronFist) they where dived this way in order to support each other, 3rd. the powerset involved on the target being BSupes far diff. than Thanos..
What you mentioned above is not my opening move but was my prep.. Grail was searching for the energy signature of the local as my prep, he was free when the initial fight begins.. Check my write up again..
Thats the only scan i can find but there are a few occasions that they remained undetected by visual security system and Werewolved/Vampires unable to detect them tell they opened fire, its somethin about bio interference from the symbiote... As said in the scan posted above "Symbiote running interference"..
Quote from me, i mention this a few time on this thread...
Another thing you mentioned is your back up plan when your initial assualt failed, Mordo needs to show himself up atleast quite close to BSupes to cast these spells Munnopor’s Moonlit Maze, the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak,the Illusions of Ikonn. Supes is too fast for this spells, + itll gave a good chance of taking your herald.. By the way Mordo is not casting it back at your headquarters, even Dr. strange need cast it close to opponent during combat and his>>>>>>>Mordo..
Read above quote for my response if i cant find you via my scans.. + you only get once chance cause on your first try Ecstacy gets taken care off, your too dependent on her to take out Supes and on her 1st try shes a goner, theres a few scans on how i might get rid of her in here thread...
Me thinks you need to read my write up again. See my attack is divided into 3 waves, you focused/depended to much of you winning base on the fall of my herald which happens on the 1st wave of my attack BSupes using his spectral visions which ive proven not going to work, you know him being able to filter his vision.. And in that attack it cost you Ecstacy, BSupes intangibility coupled w/ kinetic/momentum absorbtion completly stoping her movement then a modulating energy contruct that stops phasing and porting, Ive posted scans on this already, she goes down.. Same w/ SSkrull via Kinetic Vortex that was made during prep and Danes TP attacks..
This is how far you got, you needed Ecstacy for your back up plan but unfortunately shes unavailable..
Ive still got my 2nd and 3rd wave attacks...
Your base this attack on BSupes take down which he wasnt..
Your Char. Mordo took Dane in the astral plane whats a guy going to do with all that unlimited ammunition at his disposal, your char. gave him this opportunity.. It really dont change if Dane or Grail is around,Mordo would be stocked there w/ Danes psi-hold all Grail need to do is get out of the astral plane and helps his teamates..
Ive still got 3rd wave of attack to do...
wow....I was gonna vote Laminator guess I came too late. He was doing a better job debating, which I think is the most important thing. Team wise maybe Roldz had an edge but eh.....good luck to both
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