ok first off
duhhh sasuke can't defeat the kyuubi
but he can definitely supress its power at its current state.
second off
orichimaru said that naruto had the capability of killing him at the four-tailed stage.
third
itachi is stronger than orichimaru
way stronger!!!
that is why orichimaru wants sasuke's body
if you were to read the manga properly orichimaru clearly said that even if he were to go into sasuke's body he and sasuke's power combined still wouldnt be able to defeat itachi. yes orichimaru is strong but no were near as strong as itachi. that guy is on a totally different level. please get your facts straight before you come in stating your opinions
You guys
Naruto's Rasengon would own crap after time stop.
Jiaryas and Naruto's rasenong are incomplete
after time stop period
Naruto's raseongon will be twice the size of giant hand ball able to blow holes into the moutains!!!!
itachi and kisame were just concerned that theyd be revealing themselves to unneeded danger when referring to jiraya, remember how much itachi seems calm and uses minimal action and doesnt like fussy situations if he can help it, when they came to konoha he specifically stated and stoped kisame from doing much by saying "we didnt come here to start a war". after trying to kidnap naruto {the only reason they gave up was that naruto was not ready yet to weild the kyuubi's power} jiraya couldnt stop them and stated this to naruto. and urochimaru after the failed attempt at konoha's destruction stated while talking to kabuto. "all of this would not have been necessary f i had gotten itachi, but thats just an unfullfillable dream now since hes STRONGER THAN ME TO BEGIN WITH". urochimaru might be stronger than jiraya in a lot of departments{and definately not all} but itachi right now is stronger than urochimaru. i dont agree with itachi being stronger than sasuke in potential{dunno where the person referring to got that} since urochimaru clearly stated that sasuke's eyes show that he has greater potential than itachi, the first time he meyt him in the chuunin exam's forest of death. as ive stated before the god's power that itachi can unleash with the mangekyo are much greater in the old japanese pantheon than the kyuubi. and sasuke might possibly gain power greater than the kyuubi. the kyuubi is a yoma type demon with the strongest of chakras as stated by jiraya but that doesnt mean there isnt anything higher. susan-o{who hast been shown by itachi but hinted at being present} is even stronger than tsukyomi and ameterasu in the pantheon. {by the way susan-o is also the one who kills the legendary tailed evil serpeant urochi in the myths on which the snake like urochimaru is based on and claims the kusanagi sword from one of the dead tails the same sword that urochimaru now weilds. u may draw whatever if any conclusions from this}. remember it is the kyuubi itself that commented on sasuke's eye's and chakra being more sinister than its own.
alright this is how it is right now sasuke is stronger than naruto but we all know in the end naruto will be strongest(hence the name naruto) also after the time skip they both get new modifications to there attacks called nature manipulation following my drift ok now sasuke has two manipulations fire and lightning while naruto has one wind. as stated in the magna sasukes fire manipulation will overpower narutos wind because wind gives fire more power doubling its strength. but narutos wind is stronger than sasukes lighting because of some crap i forgot. so only with manipulation is chidori weaker than rasengan. oh and sasuke won when they fought in valley of the end naruto scratched sasukes headbnd because sasuke had already stabbed naruto with the chidori so there happy now
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during the second movie when naruto had two rasengans it was only one rasengan. the red chakra represented the demon ans the green represented the gelel power it wasnt even his chakra it was only one rasengan plus a little gelel power
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Sasuke didn't "beat" Naruto in the valley. Naruto was specifically aiming for Sasuke's headband while Sasuke was aiming to kill him. (At first.) Naruto wasn't ready to kill his best friend, he basically threw the match.
why would he throw the match if you watch the episode sasuke hit naruto first and since he did that naruto coulnt reach any more because he was stabbed it was only a coincidence that he scratched sasukes headband. if naruto felt so strongly about sasuke not going to oro y throw the match
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Hey im a big Sasuke fan to and I knows that hes not evil he is just using Orochimaru for power thats right a 51 year old man Orochimaru is being used by a 12 year old lol Itachi knows Sasuke is using Orochimaru thats why he hasnt kill him yet also Hey Man Sasuke is my Favorite Person on Naruto he is cool and not Evil he did all those things cuz as long as Team 7 was together none of them got any stronger so he saw Jiraiya Train Naruto more... cuz Naruto is just like him Sakura is just like Tsunade And him & Orochimaru r just alike in that i need power kind of way now look at all of them are stonger
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Naruto was aiming for the forehead protector because Saskue stated Naruto couldn't even lay a scratch on it. Naruto wasn't trying to kill Saskue and Saskue wasn't trying to kill Naruto. He didn't want to gain power by killing Naruto, he wanted to do it his way.
Everyone keeps talking about Saskue being stronger than the kyuubi. If you read the Manga will also see that Kakashi said Naruto will be way more powerful if he relied on his own Chakra and not the nine tails chakra. Doesn't this mean Naruto is stronger then the Kyuubi and just doesn't know it.
sasuke. probably, potentially stronger than the kyuubi, like uchia madara. kyuubi has a past with the uchiha clan, sasuke pushed it back into the seal with a single hand making the kyuubi make the above statement.
yah i think that naruto is much stronger, but naruto hasnt matured enough yet (only on shippudden 4, dont read manga) from what i can tell yes sasuke is strong, but naruto is alot stronger, he doesnt know how to control his power, and to release it at the right time, it makes me mad to watch alot of the fights lately because naruto acts so weak :/
he was aiming to scratch the headband yungz over 90% of naruto fans will tell you this
naruto easily could have defeated sasuke there, if you saw how injured sasuke was after the battle, when naruto hadnt even freeking hit him, to me it looked more like naruto scratched him than really pushed the rasengan out at sasuke, so just imagine what would have happened if naruto used the full force of the rasengan he had in that current state+the a good chunk of the kyuubi's power, sasuke would have no longer seen the light of day
then read the magna then you would see right now sasuke is stronger than naruto but eventually he will be stronger. sasuke was injured because he had no more chakra left neither of them did. and if naruto only wanted to scratch sasukes headband he needs to get his priorities straight if he wants to save sasuke
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I think so, yes. The only thing that saved Naruto the first time was that he was getting pissed and so his Nine Taisl chakara was flowing and his re-gen powers were at full power.
The second time, however, that is not the case...
Both Naruto and Sasuke were in there powered up forms (Naruto was in his nine-tails, Sasuke lvl 2 Curse, this also shows Naruto's superiority.) and both were at the edge of there limits. I doubt either of them would have survived a direct atatck from either of their (finishers, as I like to call them...) attacks. Naruto probably would have been dead if Sasuek hadn't made a cuttign motion instead of a thrust.