i could say the same form quasar, surfer containing him in a force field, surferīs faster so he wont be catch in quasar force field and more easily use one on quasar, and by the way he would do that from inside a force field.
To do that you'd have to show me a time Surfer trapped Quasar inside an energy bubble.
It's common knowledge that Quasar can absorb pretty much any type of energy ... and he has absorbed power cosmic straight out of heralds in the past... including Firelord, Nova and the Silver Surfer.
Surfer has another big advantage over quasar. When my team is hurt and tired, he can heal them. Imagine that we are loosing, silver surfer will use his powers to heal them.
has proved above, surfer can create force fieds and his faster then quasar, he could very well be the first locking quasar in a force field before the other way around. http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...r_v3_146_12.jpg
he can lock him and in the meantime he can use his power cosmic to attack the other team members
And the most important thing surfer can create Internal Attack, quasar and surfer are friends, and he is pacifist so doensīt usually does this. But he can use the power cosmic to create an internal attack:
He's not faster where it counts. When they were both fighting for the fate of the Universe Surfer couldn't avoid his blasts and was even knocked off his board.
Surfer is fast when he's flying in a straight line or between planets ... in an small (relatively speaking) enclosed battlefield he has no speed advantage at all.
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He wont be healing anyone from inside a force field
He has no speed advantage and Quasar is a better energy manipulator than Surfer.
And why would Surfer be trying to trap Quasar ... you stated nothing about it in your prep, this is obviously taking him by surprise.
And without the Board he has no speed to speak of ... welcome to the world of being trapped inside shields forever.
Jack of Hearts is a being composed of energy which is why Surfer could easily effect him like that ... Quasar has done worse to him by accident when he was less experienced.
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Ok, I need to go.
If this is still up late tomorrow afternoon I may manage one or two more posts.
If not, good match Loot.
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Last edited by Scoobless on Jan 12th, 2007 at 12:22 AM
Surfer can create power inside a persons body, you donīt have to have a body made by energy.
You were saying about the prep? I canīt lock quasar in a shield during prep, only after the fight begins, read your prep time you also canīt lock surfer. I was posting the strategy when the fight began as you.
The location of the fight is the danger room, holograms are easy for surfer to create and manipulate, he can also play with the field, he can also shut down the holograms and I know exactly from where your team members are attacking. And surfer can find anyone in nanoseconds. And communicate it via TP like I proved in the first post
It looks like someone else made that clone ... the lab, the table ... the little bald claiming he was responsible.
Surfer proved he had no significant speed advantage over Quasar when they fought ... in fact I don't think Surfer managed to dodge a single attack of Quasar's
Quasar's shields >>>>>>>> that guy's shields which is why he could hold off an angry Galactus (for a short time)
I wanted to end this today and have been waiting for votes to come in, but since there are no votes at the moment, and the debate seems to be going well, I'm going to extend the match until at the very least tommorow. When at that time, I will review the match to see if they are enough votes to end it.
i actually think the cloning thing is forbiden by the rules, or eles i could explore that, showing surfer evolve life etc, donīt know if i could go somewhere with this, but since i do believe its not allowed i wonīt bother.
that fight is crap and you know it
you said quasar shields are solid constructs, shouldnīt surfer be able to phase trough them then?
Why do you think that fight is crap? because the over rated Surfer didn't win on his own merit?
Quasar is around the same level as Surfer ... better in some areas, a touch behind him in others..... energy manipulation and absorbtion is an example of an area where Quasar >>> Surfer.
They're solid quantum energy .... they can still be manipulated by the quantum bands but the energy is alien to the 616 universe and can't be manipulated by non-band wearers.......
It's weird ....
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Last edited by Scoobless on Jan 13th, 2007 at 01:27 AM
i donīt like the fight because from surfer and quasar i would expect a better fight. plus its the typical fight between two heroes when we donīt have a winner in the end. that fight doesnīt prove that surfer can beat quasar nor that quasar can beat surfer. it could be a great fight though even not proving anything, but its not.
about the quantum bands, i was just thinking if surfer could phase trough them, not manipulate them, manipulate him instead, so he con pass trough them.
if thereīs a way of destroying more easily the quantum contructs, or pass trough them etc, surfer knows it since he already used them and was perfectly aware of what they can do.
The bands were created by one of the more powerful entities in the universe .... I doubt they could be phased through ... and any time I've seen Surfer "phase" it's been due to him altering the molecules of the object he's passing through.
but as i said, surfer has used the bands and knows their power and limitations, as these scans show, for 500 years Aron taught him how to use the quantum bands to their maximum potential. 500 years!!!
i was thinking the same thing, donīt know if its because the other tournament, or if simply people are too busy this month, i know i am, the end of a semestre is always busy.
correct my surfer is from 616. I was so glad to find those scans that didnīt realise this. my mistake.
in that case i can only base his knowledge in our previous fight, as iīve said before, surfer already fought quasar in this tournament, he has study the way quasar uses the bands, and what are their level of power and their weakness.