And Thor has killed the Hulk on at least four occasions - a What If? (snapped his neck), Hero Last Standing (godblast), Marvel Mangaverse (crushed his skull in with mjolnir) and as King Thor during the Reigning storyline (impales him) - when he killed the Thing at the same time with no mjolnir or Odinforce!
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During Reigning he had also inherited the strength of his father. It didn't suprise me that he killed Hulk.
Also, he's got no access to any of that in this fight.
Now, I'm a big Thor fan. He's an awesome character. The only honest way I can see Thor ever getting a clear victory over Hulk is if he fights the way Bill does. Stop talking, bring the pain.
Now, though the two of them have excellent teamwork, they'd probably need Hercules' help to bring Hulk down with just their hands.
The reigning took place in the distant future. Since Thor went back in time and changed that future, it's more like an alternate timeline than anything else.
The fragmented-mind Thor of B&T I'd agree on. The approaching WM Thor showing in IH 440 didn't seem any more formidable than Classic Thor. There haven't been any other showings of WM Thor have there?
If that's the Hulk vs Thor fight in Thor v1 #489, Thor wasn't trying to kill Hulk. They were basically trying to cause as much damage to Hel's landscape as possible so that Hela would either call the fight or release Thor.
Thor's skill showings in possession of his powers are spotty. Mortal Thor displayed some decent skill considering he is just a guy with a hammer. On that, I've seen some members reference that Mortal Thor stalemated Cap, but I haven't seen this/these issues so I'm not sure whether it/they exist at all.
The 2 on 1 is really the greatest advantage. For all Hulk's rage-enhanced strength, he still hasn't KO'd Thor, or even put him in bad enough shape that he couldn't continue to fight.
Hulk's initial strength is less than Thor/BRT, but comparable. From the initial encounter between Hulk and Thor, we can conclude that after an hour they will still be at comparable levels (they haven't really had a strength-test with each other since). I don't think there's going to be any strength-dwarfing going on.
So can ~2 x Thor put down Hulk in that period of time? I'd say yes. Hulk as been KO'd by Doc Samson and Abomination (he's beaten them more often than not), and I think BRT and Thor together can put out more hurt.
Had had no power when he killed the Hulk, Thing, Dr. Strange, Captain America, etc. he had his fist and his rage, and in the end he came out on top.
Which is how we tend to have them fight on the forums. I get sick of Thor talking all the time to, thats why it's good that each character is bloodlusted in these battles.
They can do it, most likely within 5 minutes of the bell.
he may be fighting for his life but he's not fighting for blood which was the difference when Thor took his life.
Yes, actually Thor has. He's the best warrior in Asgard, a warrior god race. The Absorbing Man, after stealing, and acquiring all Thor's powers still could not defeat him, saying: "It ain't fair!!!" "What's good my strength, my power if I can't land a blow?", "I didn't know it was gonna be like this!!!". The very same thing happened to Warlock, Cain Marko, etc. Thor also outclassed Ares whom had tripled his strength, to try and match Thor's. Captain America stated this about Thor’s skills, "He is an expert combatant, having been trained for hundreds of years in the art of war." "His understanding of tactics and strategies encompasses the teaching of cultures over several centuries." grog the god crusher wasn't even able to defeat a mortal Thor, simply put Thor's skills are top of the line.
I don't understand the point your trying to make here?
he's really not, like stated before, Thor tends to job a lot. Comparing here base lv strength feats, Thor far outclasses Hulk. Add that along BRB's planetary lv strength and Hulk doesn't stand a chance.
Grey Hulk has... which should be considered PIS seeing as how he's barely class 100. Grey Hulk can't even fight Rhino, I don't see how he's destroying planetary size objects.
Yes it is. You claimed that base lv Hulk is in Thor's range seeing as how Thor couldn't put him down. I stated that seeing as how Spider Man has bested Hulk then he should be in Hulk's range.
That was Thor talking, and of course he's the only one with memories of that alternate future because he changed it when he went back in time. Can you name anyone else besides Thor who can actually reference "The Reigning"? You can't because Thor went back in time and prevented the events from ever taking place and retconning the entire incident.
If it was the future there would be no Civil War going on between heroes right now, Hulk would be dead and not on Planet Hulk right now, and there would be no Extremis Iron Man.
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