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Who will win the Nomination?
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) 26 22.03%
Sen. Barack Obama (IL) 70 59.32%
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (NC) 6 5.08%
Fmr. Sen. Mike Gravel (AK) 1 0.85%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH) 4 3.39%
Sen. Christopher Dodd (CT) 0 0%
Sen. Joe Biden (DE) 3 2.54%
Gov. Bill Richardson (NM) 1 0.85%
Other 7 5.93%
Total: 118 votes 100%
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Democratic Nomination?
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Strangelove
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Originally posted by sithsaber408
Looking bad for the Dems come next November then. stick out tongue

Americans won't elect Hillary for Prez. if she gets the nomination from her party.
I don't think so. People seriously misunderestimate her wink

And even if she was an unpopular as the right-wing media would have us believe, she's a far cry better than any other Republican:

John McCain: Likable guy, sure, but he's a shameless back-pedaler and contradicts everything he says

Mitt Romney: Serious lack of trust within the party. Used to be pro-gay rights and pro-choice, but now he's 'redfining' himself as a 'true conservative.' Plus people are unsure about his Mormon faith.

Rudy Giuliani: He might be able to win the general election, but he'd never win the nomination, not in a million years.

Sam Brownback: Neoconservative evangelical. And I'll be damned if we're going to let one of those back in office.

Tommy Tancredo: Single-platform candidate. Never works

Chuck Hagel, Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, Tommy Thompson, etc: Who knows at this point. But it's early, yet wink


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I was just reading about Rahm Emanuel (my political idol), and this caught my interest. Back in 2006, he was unabashedly for Clinton, because he has a long friendship and loyalty to the family (he was a senior aide in the Clinton White House), but now he's torn between Clinton and Obama, a fellow Chi-towner.

Just interesting, that's all.


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Originally posted by Strangelove
Hillary continues to have a wide lead over all contenders...she has a large lead among black voters over Obama too....yikes


44%

Wait for the debates. Obama will shread Hillary.


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Sorry for the double post, but its here now anyway...

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Originally posted by Strangelove
I was just reading about Rahm Emanuel (my political idol), and this caught my interest. Back in 2006, he was unabashedly for Clinton, because he has a long friendship and loyalty to the family (he was a senior aide in the Clinton White House), but now he's torn between Clinton and Obama, a fellow Chi-towner.

Just interesting, that's all.


You may think people underestimate Hillary, (I agree), but you misunderestimate Obama. People don't swap sides easily in politics. Clinton has had a lot of surplus funds and time left over from easy races that she has dontated to other campaigns. People remeber that.

If Emanuel joins the Obama camp. Thats a STRONG sign. Chicagoan or not. Obama could use Emanuel on his campaign.


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Wait for the debates. Obama will shread Hillary.
Idle speculation. We shall see
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Originally posted by Alliance
You may think people underestimate Hillary, (I agree), but you misunderestimate Obama. People don't swap sides easily in politics. Clinton has had a lot of surplus funds and time left over from easy races that she has dontated to other campaigns. People remeber that.

If Emanuel joins the Obama camp. Thats a STRONG sign. Chicagoan or not. Obama could use Emanuel on his campaign.
I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at with that first point, really. Could you clarify, please?

And I seriously doubt Emanuel will join a campaign, but you're right that an endorsement from Rahm-bo will mean a lot. However, given his personal ties to both candidates, I'll wager he won't endorse either of them in the primaries.


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Strangelove
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Is anyone else watching the Democratic Presidential Candidates forum on C-SPAN? It's good stuff.

All of the candidates (minus Obama, who's campaigning in Iowa) are talking to George Stephanopolous


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Edwards is a pussy. Regardless about how the majority of Democrats feel, he is wrong to 'apologize' for his vote for the authorization of military action in Iraq. Why? Because if he says he made a mistake, then he's opening himself up for other 'mistakes.' I'm reminded of Reagan-Mondale in 1984, when Mondale said "Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, so will I. He won't say it. I just did." He only won one state, his own.

Hillary Clinton is right to say that the 'mistake' should be focused on Bush and his Administration. Since it was their faulty intelligence that led to the "Yes" vote in the first place, this is a good position. Obama has the advantage of being consistently against the Iraq War.

My high school theatre teacher once said "Don't be sorry, just don't do it again." Edwards could take a leaf out of that book.

That makes no sense. It's unreasonable for anyone to expect presidential candidates to be infallible, last thing anyone wants is a president to be wrong and be persistent about it.

Is there anything else for you to think of Edwards as a pussy or is it the same irrational "I just don't like him/her" mentality people seem to have towards Hillary?


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So far at this point if the election were tomorrow i'd vote for Edwards...i admire the fact that he's owning up to his mistake..a mistake that many in this nation made in supporting this war. He also is just an intelligent and reasonable man...something the office needs more than ever...but i'm keeping my mind open to obama and hillary but out of those two i'm more for obama.


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That makes no sense. It's unreasonable for anyone to expect presidential candidates to be infallible, last thing anyone wants is a president to be wrong and be persistent about it.

Is there anything else for you to think of Edwards as a pussy or is it the same irrational "I just don't like him/her" mentality people seem to have towards Hillary?
I have nothing against John Edwards except the "I made a mistake" spiel. And his reasons for doing it aren't even bad. He's right that it should be a bout accountability, and it does indeed throw the Bush Administration in sharp contrast. So maybe pussy was a bit harsh


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HAHA one thing is for certain regardless of "party"votes Clinton sucks as hard as everyone else.

I just saw the crappiest "right to vote"speech ever,what an embarrassment.

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I have nothing against John Edwards except the "I made a mistake" spiel. And his reasons for doing it aren't even bad. He's right that it should be a bout accountability, and it does indeed throw the Bush Administration in sharp contrast. So maybe pussy was a bit harsh


Well, Coulter said he was a f*ggot.

I don't like him. He's wishy-washy. He has no stand.

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HAHA one thing is for certain regardless of "party"votes Clinton sucks as hard as everyone else.

I just saw the crappiest "right to vote"speech ever,what an embarrassment.


Yes, it sucked.

Now Obamas' speech... cool


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Well, Coulter said he was a f*ggot.

The difference is when she said it, it was funny.

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I don't like him. He's wishy-washy. He has no stand.

Do you have any reasons to think that or is it the same ol' "he admitted to making a mistake... the pussy."?


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The difference is when she said it, it was funny.


Not really. She's just a worthless, self righteous heartless hag.

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Do you have any reasons to think that or is it the same ol' "he admitted to making a mistake... the pussy."?


No. I'm not the type that belives people aren't allowed to change their minds.

I just don't think he has a lot to run on. He just acts wishy washy and I think he tells people what they want to hear. He has essentially the smae message as everyone else and very little to run on.

He seems like he's just all smiles to me. That makes me uneasy.


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Rudy Giuliani: He might be able to win the general election, but he'd never win the nomination, not in a million years.



Giuliani up 25 points


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Giuliani up 25 points



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Al Sharpton, where is he at in this process?

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Nowhere.

I really can't imagine the republicans electing a candidate like Guiliani. Will he be in drag for the convention too?


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Al Sharpton, where is he at in this process?


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Nowhere.

I really can't imagine the republicans electing a candidate like Guiliani. Will he be in drag for the convention too?


laughing out loud


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