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Who will win the Nomination?
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) 26 22.03%
Sen. Barack Obama (IL) 70 59.32%
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (NC) 6 5.08%
Fmr. Sen. Mike Gravel (AK) 1 0.85%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH) 4 3.39%
Sen. Christopher Dodd (CT) 0 0%
Sen. Joe Biden (DE) 3 2.54%
Gov. Bill Richardson (NM) 1 0.85%
Other 7 5.93%
Total: 118 votes 100%
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Democratic Nomination?
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Originally posted by Robtard
Quite possibly. Hopefully.

Obama just said "you won't see religion used as a wedge and patriotism used as a blugeon" in his campaign


Yep, hes telling the truth! I believe the man 100%, no lies coming from his mouth!


(unless he suddenly becomes republican..then everything he says is a lie and politicians are lieing scumbags)

edit: Who needs religion and patriotism when you can manipulate the lower class with incentives for the government giving you all these "FREE!" programs?


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Personally, I think the best choices for him as far as being the most helpful once he's in the white house are Biden and Richardson.
Technically either of them is probably more "qualified" than either of the candidates who have been vying for the top spot for the last 5 months. American politics is the strangest of creatures.


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Originally posted by KidRock
Yep, hes telling the truth! I believe the man 100%, no lies coming from his mouth!


(unless he suddenly becomes republican..then everything he says is a lie and politicians are lieing scumbags)

edit: Who needs religion and patriotism when you can manipulate the lower class with incentives for the government giving you all these "FREE!" programs?


In regards to the line above of what he claimed, that will soon be shown as a lie or not. Though I really can't see Obama invoking God as a reason for supporting him and making allusions that someone is anti-American if they're anti-war during his speaches

Which programs are you referring to?

Edit: McCain is relying on Bush-style fear tactics though, this is what he had to say a little while ago about Obama:

"McCain cast Obama, a first-term Illinois senator, as lacking the experience and discretion to be a wartime commander in chief" ie Obama can't protect yor children form the Muslims!


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Originally posted by Robtard
That's the general concensus with many political commentators.

Now the questions remains, who will Obama-Clinton run against, McCain-XXX?

Edit: This was in reply to Strangerlover above, not the budweiser-bandit.
My predictions for the GOP VP candidate include Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, Florida Governor Charlie Crist, Mike Huckabee, and Mitt Romney.

Haha, Strangerlover.


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Obama?

Brb, .


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Obama?

Brb, .
Are you old enough to vote, dude?

Just curious.


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Technically either of them is probably more "qualified" than either of the candidates who have been vying for the top spot for the last 5 months. American politics is the strangest of creatures.


That is why I was always for a Biden/Kucinich ticket.

I'd also like to point out how satisfied I am with America for giving such a chance to both an Africa American and a woman. In the days ahead, Mrs. clinton will make the right descision. She will either accept (behind closed doors) a possible VP offer or she will fully endorse Mr. Obama. She is, currently and for all the obvious reasons, the best choice in regards to defeating the republicans in November. What does sadden me is that she couldn't have made even a half-hearted effort to extend some sort of reasonable display of acceptance of reality. And, Mr. Obama went out of his way to praise her and the former President. The bar I was in while watching her speech listened carefully, but seemed to come away with a film in their mouth after she'd finished. By the time I got home to see his speech, I must admit I could taste the animosity as well. How her intentions can't become obviously transparent in light of her actions tonight astounds me. I'm not saying she had to conceed, as she is not really in a position to have to, but she should have at least displayed the common sense and grace that should be implied by tonights events.


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It's hard to lose. I think she just needs a couple days.


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While I certainly think she'll concede in the coming days, I don't expect any announcement about her becoming VP anytime soon.


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It's hard to lose. I think she just needs a couple days.


That's no way to validate that a woman is capable of running the country. That's just my personal opinion. If she's so tough as nails, she shouldn't need three days to cry into her pillow and get a grip. What is she going to do in the next three days? Go through her scrap book of the relationship and weep over it? I think she needs a few days to calculate her next move and listen to the opinions of those people who email her. Which is actually a farce, because not many people will go out of their way to email her and tell her to conceed. I just don't see the logic of telling us that she needs a few days to deal and to embrace her family in a circle of healing. If she's tough as nails, she should ****ing act that way. Again, I'm not saying she had to conceed, I'm saying she should have been at all gracious.


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I would say the same thing about a man, believe me. Losing is hard. It has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton being a woman, it has to do with her being the loser of a very hard-fought race.


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Part of me wants to agree with you, but she could be playing the cards she's given as best she can, I can imagine these things don't just suddenly happen. Also, she came in a VERY close second, some say the closets ever.

Has any 2nd runner in the primaries conceded the day of?

Edit: To DK above.


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That is why I was always for a Biden/Kucinich ticket.

I'd also like to point out how satisfied I am with America for giving such a chance to both an Africa American and a woman.
Wouldn't it have been more satisfying if either of them had done something of significant merit to warrant their current standing, besides being charismatic and having a name brand respectively, and a lot of fundraising ability collectively?
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That's no way to validate that a woman is capable of running the country. That's just my personal opinion. If she's so tough as nails, she shouldn't need three days to cry into her pillow and get a grip. What is she going to do in the next three days?
Presumably use her remaining leverage to advocate her slight policy differences being adopted particularly in her pet niche of healthcare.


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I don't have any concrete examples, but I would imagine it was rare for the runner-up to concede immediately.


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I would say the same thing about a man, believe me. Losing is hard.


I'm not sure I understand what that is supposed to mean in regards to this situation. Losing might be hard for anyone, but the national media telling us she just needs a few days to come to terms with the reality of the situation is being said of her, and I personally think it's crap. She isn't weeping, she's getting pissed.


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Part of me wants to agree with you, but she could be playing the cards she's given as best she can, I can imagine these things don't just suddenly happen. Also, she came in a VERY close second, some say the closets ever.

Has any 2nd runner in the primaries conceded the day of?

Edit: To DK above.


I didn't say she needed to conceed. I said she needed to display some measure of grace.


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Wouldn't it have been more satisfying if either of them had done something of significant merit to warrant their current standing, besides being charismatic and having a name brand respectively, and a lot of fundraising ability collectively? Presumably use her remaining leverage to advocate her slight policy differences being adopted particularly in her pet niche of healthcare.


that is why I supported two other candidates until they dropped out.

If I am to presume that she is using her time to broker a deal, then I will repeat my earlier point, that her motives should become more and more transparent.


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I'm not sure I understand what that is supposed to mean in regards to this situation. Losing might be hard for anyone, but the national media telling us she just needs a few days to come to terms with the reality of the situation is being said of her, and I personally think it's crap. She isn't weeping, she's getting pissed.
which is exactly why you don't want her to endorse or concede. Believe me, I'm a hothead; if something like that had happened to me, I'd need a couple days to cool down so I could concede/endorse with sincerity.


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I didn't say she needed to conceed. I said she needed to display some measure of grace.


My error.


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