Who will win the Nomination?
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Sen. John McCain (AZ)
19
27.14%
Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA)
8
11.43%
Fmr. NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (NY)
17
24.29%
Sen. Sam Brownback (KS)
0
0%
Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO)
1
1.43%
Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)
1
1.43%
Fmr. Gov. and HHS Sec. Tommy Thompson (WI)
0
0%
Rep. Duncan Hunter (CA)
0
0%
Rep. Ron Paul (TX)
20
28.57%
Other
4
5.71%
Total:
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, it is a bad thing in the US.
Makes sense to me. I don't think she has a good shot at becoming president.
Liberalism is a bad thing in a place that has liberty bells, liberty shakes and the statue of liberty?
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Feb 25th, 2008 10:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Liberalism is a bad thing in a place that has liberty bells, liberty shakes and the statue of liberty?
you forgot freedom fries.
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Feb 25th, 2008 10:14 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
you forgot freedom fries.
Doesn't have liberty in, but the two do have similar meanings.
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Feb 25th, 2008 10:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Doesn't have liberty in, but the two do have similar meanings.
you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.
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Feb 25th, 2008 10:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Huckabee is probably going to be his VP, at least that's what people have been saying.
I hope the debates come down to Ron Paul vs McCain, at least then Ron will have more time to speak and he can make McCain look like the fool he is.
If you want to see McCain being exposed as a fool, the best way for that to happen is for him to use Huckabee as his VP. But seriously, I doubt he is going to open that can of worms.
Feb 25th, 2008 10:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.
They hate us for our freedom.
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Feb 25th, 2008 11:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
More than half of America hates her.
Not even people who make politics their lives know what you pretend to know.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
She's portrayed as the anti-christ and a liberal which apparently is a bad thing in America, the place of liberty.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Liberalism is a bad thing in a place that has liberty bells, liberty shakes and the statue of liberty?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
They hate us for our freedom.
Get it into your head now: there is a difference between liberalism and liberty. I’m really trying not to imply that your intelligence is lower than the intelligence of anyone else here, but you don’t really have a grasp on America’s idea of “liberty”, and I have to doubt that most of England shares your view as well.
Feb 25th, 2008 11:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Liberalism is a bad thing in a place that has liberty bells, liberty shakes and the statue of liberty?
Yeah. Why would that confuse you?
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Feb 26th, 2008 10:41 AM
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Hilary nor Obama are liberal though.
They are either Progressives or Socialists IMO. The term "liberal" doesn't really apply to them anymore in my view.
Liberals of the past that are looked up to like JFK/RFK and so forth, probably would be considered Republicans today.
Feb 26th, 2008 02:25 PM
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We should have a thread comparing the various parties.
Feb 26th, 2008 11:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah. Why would that confuse you?
Liberalism is about giving people liberties. Right?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by BigRed
Hilary nor Obama are liberal though.
They are either Progressives or Socialists IMO. The term "liberal" doesn't really apply to them anymore in my view.
Liberals of the past that are looked up to like JFK/RFK and so forth, probably would be considered Republicans today.
Well, there's classic liberals, and social liberals...and neo liberals which are somewhere in between, or more Blair/Brown kinda people.
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Feb 27th, 2008 12:14 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Liberalism is about giving people liberties. Right?
Forty years ago that might have been true. If you wanna know why liberalism is bad in America it's because recently it seems to refer to a liberal budget, not just a liberal society.
Then again, nobody in America has been good with the budget recently.
Feb 27th, 2008 01:19 AM
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what is a liberal budget?
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Feb 27th, 2008 01:28 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
what is a liberal budget?
It's a term conservatives use to take jabs at liberals. It's been a lot less common since republicans got control of Congress and demonstrated their own ability to be at liberty with the budget.
Feb 27th, 2008 04:20 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quark_666
It's a term conservatives use to take jabs at liberals. It's been a lot less common since republicans got control of Congress and demonstrated their own ability to be at liberty with the budget.
And what does it mean?
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Feb 27th, 2008 04:21 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
And what does it mean?
It is a hint that a person is "at liberty" with the budget. Puns are allowed in politics, even though political parties have nothing to do with their nomenclature.
Feb 27th, 2008 04:23 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quark_666
It is a hint that a person is "at liberty" with the budget. Puns are allowed in politics, even though political parties have nothing to do with their nomenclature.
you could have just said tax and spend. it was all rhetorical anyway.
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Feb 27th, 2008 04:42 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quark_666
America isn't based off of liberty anyway. It is based off of equal participation in government.
and equal participation in this gov are NONexistant... seeing as this is not even a "democracy"... for a "democracy" it would be governed by the people. what we have here is a representational gov, that i dont think works
calling for the rise of socialism!
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Feb 27th, 2008 07:29 AM
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Hi Guys, i think John McCain would be win the nomination. what do you think he would be win in this year? yes or not
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Feb 27th, 2008 09:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lord xyz
Liberalism is about giving people liberties. Right?
It's not quite that easy, but yes, you could say that about classic liberalism. Obviously that does not mean that everyone that calls themselves liberal will want that. Why are you confused about that.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Follen
and equal participation in this gov are NONexistant... seeing as this is not even a "democracy"... for a "democracy" it would be governed by the people. what we have here is a representational gov, that i dont think works
calling for the rise of socialism!
It's a representative democracy. Meaning it is a democracy.
socialism on the other hand is a most digusting and oppressive idea that should never even be considered.
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