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Why didnt Dooku betray Sidious back ?
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vintageSW77
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QUOTE - not to mention it would ruin the plot if they found out the truth.




yeah we wouldnt want anyone ruining the plot of The Phantom Menace would we


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No... the best ever... wink


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well i watched The Clone Wars on dvds last night for the first time and found the last 15 mins very exiting which is something i never really got from the PT

i just find it typical of Lucas to put out two movies with a character who is in league with the major villian and not clarify that the character knows the villian has two sides
maybe he should have said something pre decapitation to clear it up

its a bit daft a villian risking the delivery of the Death Star plans with someone who nearly gets wasted by his own "grand army"


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First of AOTC is a very good movie second of he didn't know he would get ambushed in his hangar by Anakin, Obi and Yoda and when was hi in risk from the grand army its not like he couldn't defend himself, he was one of the best, part of the elite of force users and lightsaber dualist.


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AOTC is an average movie and i dont know why Dooku didnt make a more discreet getaway on foot and hide out for a while instead of jumping on a speederbike which may as well have had a big sign saying LOOK ITS ME COUNT DOOKU then leading everyone to his hangar where his ship was.
Its a good job that Yoda was prepared to save the lives of 2 Jedi(yeah i know one of them was "the chosen one"but at that point it was still in doubt) thus putting the galaxy in jepoardy instead of defeating Dooku or else that would have been it for the third film in the movies formerly known as the STAR WARS prequels.


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excuse the grammar i didnt have time to edit
and excuse the nit picking
i just think AOTC and lose all sense of reason


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i just think AOTC and lose all sense of reason


understandable since most of it was time-wasting cgi filler and crappy dialogue with a couple of decent action scenes. i can honestly say that ill most likely never watch that movie again. its like that godzilla remake from 15 years ago. yeah the effects are cool, and its certainly worth watching once, but once you've seen it there really is no reason to revisit it...ever.

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well there is Natalie Portman in the tight white suit





id never have thought back in 97 that the highlights of the second Star Wars movie would be the chick out of Leon in a tight white suit and Boba Fetts dad pulling a couple of moves


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Say what you want, but i like the PT, only 2 big things bother me, Jar Jar and kid Anakin from TPM.


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i just think AOTC and lose all sense of reason


So did George Lucas... AOTC is mediocre and obsolete.


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Originally posted by vintageSW77
AOTC is an average movie and i dont know why Dooku didnt make a more discreet getaway on foot and hide out for a while instead of jumping on a speederbike which may as well have had a big sign saying LOOK ITS ME COUNT DOOKU then leading everyone to his hangar where his ship was.
Its a good job that Yoda was prepared to save the lives of 2 Jedi(yeah i know one of them was "the chosen one"but at that point it was still in doubt) thus putting the galaxy in jepoardy instead of defeating Dooku or else that would have been it for the third film in the movies formerly known as the STAR WARS prequels.


He needed to escape as quickly as possible, if he stayed longer, republic space forces could cut of the planet and quarantine it, then he would have no chance of escaping, this way he used the heat of battle as distraction to make his gateway.
Dooku could also strike Yoda when he was helping Anakin and
Obi-Wan.

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your right
i just thought the speeder bike is a bad choice of transport if you wanted to be discreet and protected from attack
maybe thats all that was at hand


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Maybe he thought if he took a speeder bike he wouldn't be spotted, instead of a big escort protecting him, which could be spotted easily and probably he thought the battle on the ground would serve as distraction.
He probably thought republic forces would be to busy fighting to notice him.


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Why did he park his ship so far away anyway? Oh wait, then wouldn't have that wonderfully crappy CGI chase.


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In the case of 'not recognizing Palpy as Sids via hologram,' Palpatine was usually always very softspoken and kindly and so on, so nobody would suspect the old man to be a sinister killing machine who ordered the death of millions and so on. Plus, can't see under the hood, I suppose. At least, not with the flickery hologram stuff.


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Why did he park his ship so far away anyway? Oh wait, then wouldn't have that wonderfully crappy CGI chase.


Yeah, that bothered me too, Gunray had his ship right there at the command center and escaped immediately, but no Dooku had to go to another hangar, just to have the lightsabers duels.

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Originally posted by Captain REX
In the case of 'not recognizing Palpy as Sids via hologram,' Palpatine was usually always very softspoken and kindly and so on, so nobody would suspect the old man to be a sinister killing machine who ordered the death of millions and so on. Plus, can't see under the hood, I suppose. At least, not with the flickery hologram stuff.




the voice is similar when Palpatine speaks loudly in the senate and that chin........dead giveaway
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my old TPM Sideous figure is a dead cert for Palps in a hood n all its just a shame we didnt get a good look at him without the hologram in TPM to fully back up my comments........its not one of movie histories greatest disguises is it
its almost on a par with Clark Kent

i guess Maul knew he was Palps too then


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Of course Maul knew Sidious was Palps, he trained him since he was a small child.


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wow i missed that movie/cartoon

was it like Shogun Assassin ??


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Thats from EU.


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