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Why didnt Dooku betray Sidious back ?
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ah

ill admit ive enjoyed the odd EU novel in the past
Jedi Academy,Tales from the cantina/jabbas palace but i put them as many do with The Holiday Special as seperate entities to the movies
during my search for the elusive YODA,Sebastian Shaw and Guinness without shimmer pic ive noticed a lot of fans dont even acknowledge the PT let alone EU(ive also noticed a lot of chicks trying unsuccesfuly to pull off the Leia in Bikin look.....yuk!)
i thought i was bad but there is a lot of venom towards GL out there

harsh


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He deserves it because of Jar Jar, kid Anakin, Ewoks and for chainging the music at the end of ROTJ when they are celebrating, for some gay song.


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Of course, but the Coruscant scene with Sidious and Maul and the "Senate bogged down" quote in Maul's presence made pretty clear that Sidious was high up in the Senate. I'm dead sure Maul knew who he was.


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Of course Maul knew, Sidious was very busy as a senator, probably had to spend a lot of time in the senate, despite the fact he took Maul as a little boy, what would he tell him, when he had to do his duty of the senator, hey Maul stay here, i am just going to buy some cigarettes, i will be back in couple of hours.


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maybe i should watch the PT this week as ive forgot lots of stuff that im being reminded of daily in this thread


btw did Maul have a babysitter when Palpatine was off doing stuff with the senate ?
and how much were they on an hour???


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Re: Why didnt Dooku betray Sidious back ?

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Originally posted by Count Makashi
I don't know if this was done before, if it was i apologize.

Why didn't Dooku betray Sidious when he was defeated by Anakin, when Sidious says God Anakin god. Kill him, kill him naw, why didn'tDooku say to Anakin that that the chancellor was a Sith lord(not to beg for his life, just to betray Sidious-it is the sith way).
In my opinion Dooku started out good, but was seduced by the dark side, he believed that Sidious was going to create a better society.
He thought the republic was to weak and corrupt and the jedi betrayedthemselves serving such institutions.
I think he didn't say anything, because he thought if he told Anakin he could kill Sidious and everything would be back to as it was before, the corrupt republic, not protecting its people.( not that Sidious was a better choice, Dooku just thought he was).

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Even if Dooku told Anakin that Palpatine is a Sith Lord, he knew that Anakin would not believe him especially after he cut off his arm, injured Obi-wan, started the Clone Wars (when it was actually Palpatine that did it), and sending assassians after Padme.

Anakin will kill him quick before Dooku says another bad word about his "friend and mentor", Palpatine.

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maybe dooku was well aware of palps plan. think when palp said kill him dooku had the look then when palp says it again he has that remember the plan look on his face.


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They had indicated in Dark Rendevous that Dooku was giving thought to giving up the Separatist movement. Even though his meeting with Yoda was supposed to be an ambush, he thought twice about taking Yoda up on his offer to a truce.


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I think Sidious make his apprentices awar of say... 98% of the plan.... The trick is in the 2% he doesn't tell.


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I'd be willing to bet that Maul was alone, even as a child, when Sidious went off to play Palpatine. He was probably training or meditating at all times


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Prolly.


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or watching Coruscants equivilent of Cartoon Network with a glass of milk and cookies


or blue milk and cookies for you purists out there


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Re: Re: Why didnt Dooku betray Sidious back ?

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Even if Dooku told Anakin that Palpatine is a Sith Lord, he knew that Anakin would not believe him especially after he cut off his arm, injured Obi-wan, started the Clone Wars (when it was actually Palpatine that did it), and sending assassians after Padme.

Anakin will kill him quick before Dooku says another bad word about his "friend and mentor", Palpatine.


But he has nothing to lose, i didn't say that he begs for mercy, if i was in Dooku position and i would knew that Anakin is going to kill me for all the things i done to him, i would at least try to repay Sidious back. Dooku gave Sidious everything and to be repaid like that, i would at least try to repay the favor.

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But Dooku was nobility... he didn't think like that.


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Ya, a part of me kind of wanted Dooku to say something after he was unhanded. But it happened awfully fast, so it was a pretty good scene... except I hate beheadings in Star Wars movies.

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The guy just got his hands chopped off, he's facing possible death, he lost...

Then all of a sudden he hears from his boss, "Kill him, kill him now."

Yeah, his thoughts are going to be clear as crystal.


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The guy just got his hands chopped off, he's facing possible death, he lost...

Then all of a sudden he hears from his boss, "Kill him, kill him now."

Yeah, his thoughts are going to be clear as crystal.


You're saying yours wouldn't?

j/k

Instinct would at least make you WANT to blurt something out to delay or spare the wrath you were about to face.


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IMO, Dooku was very loyal to Sidious. He was his apprentince and all his loyalties belonged to Sidious.

Then, it came when he lost to Anakin. Sidious asked Anakin to kill Dooku. Look at his face, he was shocked. He was very loyal to Sidious yet he was betrayed. It's obvious that, even for him, that it shocked him enough to not talk. For example, if you get arrested for something you wouldn't do, wouldn't you be in silenced in shock?


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or watching Coruscants equivilent of Cartoon Network with a glass of milk and cookies


or blue milk and cookies for you purists out there


I would suggest caution when drinkin the blue milk...lol.....


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I don't think Dooku was silent because he was in shock, it feels more like the nobilty when they got guillotined during the French Revolution. You can show the people how a king... count... dies.


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