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Ur logic is faulty. Being 2nd in ur own multiverse does not make you more powerful than the third of another. it is also plainly obvious that you do not understand that there are TWO VERSIONS OF MICHAEL, ONE WHO IS INFINITELY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE OTHER. DO NOT CONFUSE VERTIGO MIKE WITH MAINSTREAM MIKE.
No, Multi-Eternity is the power of the multi-verse. LT is just a judge... wait, where are you getting this anyway?
No, they are not... because they don't need redicules feats to prove their power.
Also, Vertigo, DC doesn't have an outstanding multi-verse, like Marvel's... so don't compare them.
And? Doesn't mean the beings are weaker that were created.
Going by on panel showings which is the only thing on this forum by the rules which carries any true weight or meaning in a debate.
On panel showings show that the LT was destroyed by the HOTU, their was no mention that TOAA wanted LT to die.
To say that LT only lost because TOAA wanted him to lose is the same as saying Spectre only loses because the source wants him to lose; which both statements on this forum by the rules has no weight what so ever.
As it stands the HOTU only made Thanos a multiverse and nothing more, not an omniverse, not a megaverse, he was but a multiverse just as the countless others he saw.
HOTU (power of a complete multiverse) > LT
Vertigo isn't cannon, when will any of you understand this, the Michael from Vertigo is not cannon, as Vertigo comics itself directly contradicts mainstream DC continuity on many points.
HOTU = Power of a multiverse as shown on panel, nothing more
HOTU > LT as shown on panel
Hostless Spectre > Multiversal power, as when he fought the Anti-Monitor who had the power of countless multiverses.
The AM at his best couldn't even one-shot a universe on his own. Didn't he use tAech or weapons?
And please stop using A>B>C Logic.
The only time Spectre was above LT was when he was actually merged with The Presence. Spectre merged with Presence > Michael and Lucifer. Unless you can tell me how exactly they're stronger than him at that point?
And again, when Michael's power was released, did it only make one universe or not?
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Your showing you know little to nothing about DC, as Vertigo isnt even in continuity nor is it Cannon.
The Michael in this debate is the cannon one from Main stream DC, not Vertigo.
Notice that it is Archangel Michael.
Now show me on panel that the Spectre is more powerful then Michael, because Michael has effortlessly handled the Spectre like a child several times to this day.
Michael's power only made one universe? Again your speaking from Vertigo which isn't cannon or continuity, secondly it created a multiverse, the same as when Elaine made one effortleslly.
The point is, Vertigo Michael Demigeuros is not the same as DC Archangel Michael, two completely different characters.
DC has never been a singular multiverse, and is not today either, DC is composed of many multiverses, their is a recent comic that came out to with heroes from many different universes/multiverses.
DC was a single multiverse. That was what was destroyed during Crisis on Infinite Earths. However, they've changed that recently and now multiverses still exist.
At most, ALL of DC is about...5 or so multiverses as far as I know. Counting DCAU and Vertigo and everything.
__________________ "No, when Luke uses anger he turns into Stevie Wonder at batting practice."
Is LT equal to God? No, then what does that have to do with the thread?
The Presence is equal to TOAA on these boards... is this just another way to make a company more powerful than the other?
Do you mean holding the Brothers in his hands? Ya...
You notice how you said that Spectre helped? You also notice how Micheal is above Spectre? Really just makes your case worse...
Yes Mr Master is great... but even he can leave out things *gasp*.
All they did was hold them together for a short time. Did you forget that the Brothers also didn't even acknowledge them? That Spectre and LT were tiny specks. That the duo never beat them, but the Brothers stalemated?
And finally... That the comic was non canon?
Or are you talking about the other non-canon X-Men arc?
Yes, yes, LT makes it canon to him, but it still doesn't mean anything.
If Spectre, and LT beat them (depowered, ret-conned, whatever you want to call it), then it is still irrelevent to this battle.
Michael never went up against the GEB...even if Specter lost, GEB is stronger than anything Michael has encountered. Plus Specter fought the Brothers. Brothers and GEB = stronger than Michael.
Never said he was but people keep saying Michael > Specter.... a lot of people pwn Specter. He has low showings. His higher showings put him above Michael is what I'm saying.
Talking post-retcon. post-retcon Brothers still > Michael as they are megaverses and were forced to merge by LT and Specter.
'cept post-retcon Brothers still are megaverses in and of themselves. LT can judge them and hold them in his hand.
When did Michael have the power of a megaverse?
__________________ "No, when Luke uses anger he turns into Stevie Wonder at batting practice."
Odin never went up against HOTU... even if Hulk lost, HOTU is still stronger than anything Odin has encountered. Plus Hulk fought the IG. IG and HOTU = Stronger than Odin.
Yeh, for shoddy logic. Hulk>>Odin.
A lot of people?
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who?
Megaverses...are you honestly using that comic as your source?
Anyway, Spectre never merged Micheal.
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