The way I see it. EU Should have never touched the OT about Jedi and Sith. For the Jedi it should just have been Obi-Wan and Yoda since Obi-Wan said, "the Jedi are all but extinct." and this was when Obi-Wan was dead so he would have known. Also Yoda makes it clear that Luke is the last Jedi. And Tarkin mentions Vader being the last of his religion when Vader mentioned the Death Star not being as powerful as the Force.
Three people each with knowledge and understand and the resources to know whether or not another Jedi/Sith would have been around and all of them basically said no. The EU needs to stop screwing up the OT so much. I mean not everything is bad like Shadows of the Empire which was very good.
But, Obi Wan said 'That boy was our last hope..' - he believes Luke is the absolute, final last Jedi. And Yoda then says 'No, there is another..', so a) Obi Wan doesnt know every last Jedi is dead, and b) Speaking of 'another' one means that there is still potential for a force sensitive to be trained up as a Jedi, and who knows how many force potentials there were. Also, didnt Tarkin say that 'last of the religion' stuff before Vader killed Obi Wan? Also before Yoda came into the picture. So, he was wrong there, he was assuming Vader was the last.
Yup. Proves absolutely nothing and does not at all contradict what is clearly stated in the OT movies and that all Jedi beyond the ones seen on screen are dead.
Yeah, whats your point? She has force potential and Yoda can see her as another candidate for Jedi training, Obi Wan didnt know, so its no good saying Obi Wan is all correct about there not being any other Jedi if there are others who could be trained. He might be right about saying there werent any other fully trained Jedi around at that given moment, but force potentials can still be trained up, as evident by Luke. Im not saying its realistic to have a bunch of Jedi running around owning the place during OT but theres always the possibility of someone becoming a Jedi in the future.
Well, that's becoming a rather irrelevant point to make by then, isn't it? Yoda's unambiguous line saying Luke is the last Jedi confirms it- there are no Jedi in the OT era, hence Galaxies is in error. And here is the point- Galaxies KNEW it was in error, and did it apparently to appease the fans, whereas in fact it only appeased a small minority of vocal fans, to the detriment of a. the game itself and b. the enjoyment of the majority. And this is the kind of application and approach I am worried about. It is those same vovcal fans who demand killer force powers.
As for the demo possibly being overblown in comparison to the real thing- well, check that line I quoted about making enemies explkode, or whatever. It seems they are going for it.
As for Vader not following the Rule of Two... well, again, GL makes it clear that he does, and that he seeks to continue it via Luke. But that's by the by, the idea is still a mad one especially, as I say, as this Apprentice appears to have more power than Vader and, indeed, the Emperor.
Bottom line is- you don't need hyperpowers to make a game any good, and if you are advertising your game on the basis of comic-book style superpowers then one must worry about the gameplay.
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Leia was NOT a Jedi. She had the potential to become one but she was not a Jedi. Also I was referring to Tarkin mentioning Vader being the last of his religion indicating that within the Empire only Vader and the Emperor had any Force training because otherwise Tarkin would have knew about it.
Obi-Wan and Yoda both call Luke the last Jedi meaning that in the OT era Luke was all that was left.
Neither was Luke at that point, Yoda mentioned him becoming a Jedi only after facing Vader etc..so theres still another force user running around, so how do you know there werent any other force users hiding around the galaxy.
How do you know about Tarkin knowing everything though? Thats the point I was making from the start, he was talking about the entire force community when he said Vader was the last, but there was still Obi Wan and Yoda around, I dont even think Tarkin knew Palpatine was a Sith, did he ever publicly announce it? If Palpatine, or even Vader had another apprentice Im sure they would have shut up about it, Vader having an apprentice would piss Palpatine off, Palps having an apprentice would piss Vader off, Tarkin's only in charge of the Death Star, not second in command of info.
Yes but you tried to out her on the same level as Luke, which is entirely misleading.
No mattter which way you try to portray it, fact is still that this game is promoting it's fantasy-magic style force powers and is concentrating on them instead of trying to produce a game which pays attention to the true Star Wars style, and it will inevitably be the worse for it, as their track record shows.
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I didn't read all of the tread but do any of you know there will be no PC version? I think it's stupid of LA to ignore the PC, it's one of the most popular platforms. It's supposed to be for the next-gen but there will be PS2 and PSP versions?! My PC is way more powerful than a PS2 so I don't see a problem of porting a PS2 (or even better a PS3) version for the PC.
The only systems it's actually been confirmed for so far is the 360 and PS3, but will likely be on the others as well. I don't doubt there will be a PC version.
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), but not as a SW game..
