Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lordboo
why does every body hate apoc so much.
Because x-books stopped being good when Jean Grey returned
Well until Astonishing X-men, but the point still remains
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Feb 22nd, 2007 12:19 AM
TricksterPriest
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Agreed. ***** should have stayed dead. Haven't read much Astonishing, so I'll just take your word for it.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 12:20 AM
TricksterPriest
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Um, we've debated this pretty well in the last 2 pages. And most of us think Thor is outmatched by Classic Apoc.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 12:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Um, we've debated this pretty well in the last 2 pages. And most of us think Thor is outmatched by Classic Apoc.
Evidently not me... The majority is nice, but I really don't care.
Is it... because Apoc has managed to knock down Loki?
Because I know Thor hasn't managed to knock down Loki, or make Loki show any signs of pain...
Or suck out his soul, or make him go blind (then pawn him), or just plain beat him and his son, with no hammer, and the other two have hammers, or... etc.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 12:42 AM
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Thor can match Apoc's abilities and sum.
the Mjinor is more versitile than Apoc.
Feb 22nd, 2007 12:45 AM
batdude123
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Thor beats the shit out of Apoc.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 12:51 AM
swerve1988
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APOC 9/10 w/o mjolnir
APOC 7/10 w/ mjolnir
Feb 22nd, 2007 02:29 AM
TricksterPriest
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Mjolnir is a deus ex machina at times, but I have to partly co-sign with Swerve. (NEVER thought I'd say that.......) Without Mjolnir, Thor's screwed against Apocalypse. With it, I think Apoc can get at least 6/10.
Where's Evil_Ash when you need him?
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Feb 22nd, 2007 02:45 AM
Soljer
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mjolnir is a deus ex machina at times, but I have to partly co-sign with Swerve. (NEVER thought I'd say that.......) Without Mjolnir, Thor's screwed against Apocalypse. With it, I think Apoc can get at least 6/10.
Where's Evil_Ash when you need him?
Totally full-potential-ignore-low-showings-only-take-the-best-of-the-best Apocalypse could get 6/10.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 02:53 AM
batdude123
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Soljer
Totally full-potential-ignore-low-showings-only-take-the-best-of-the-best Apocalypse could get 6/10.
Not really. Thor still beats him.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 02:57 AM
batdude123
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mjolnir is a deus ex machina at times, but I have to partly co-sign with Swerve. (NEVER thought I'd say that.......) Without Mjolnir, Thor's screwed against Apocalypse. With it, I think Apoc can get at least 6/10.
Where's Evil_Ash when you need him?
Why would Thor not have Mjolnir?
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Feb 22nd, 2007 02:57 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mjolnir is a deus ex machina at times, but I have to partly co-sign with Swerve. (NEVER thought I'd say that.......) Without Mjolnir, Thor's screwed against Apocalypse. With it, I think Apoc can get at least 6/10.
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Why is this?
Like, I mean... Thor can kill Durok in one shot without his hammer.
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Now, I'm not arguing about Thor without his hammer (I don't remember this even being in the thread), but even then, Apoc would be hard pressed to beat him...
I mean, when you one shot kill someone who has given Surfer troubles, and has even given Thor troubles with his hammer...
Keep in mind, this is Thor realizing he has depended on his hammer too much.
He would have that skill without his hammer, and hell, even with his hammer.
Plus...
OMG... Exitar!
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He just took a bunch of hits from Celestials... also, where does Apoc get his small amout of tech from?
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Feb 22nd, 2007 02:59 AM
swerve1988
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apoc owned hulk who stalemates thor( thor's best showing of course)
Feb 22nd, 2007 03:05 AM
batdude123
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by swerve1988
apoc owned hulk who stalemates thor( thor's best showing of course)
It's ignorance like this that makes parents beat their children.
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Feb 22nd, 2007 03:06 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by swerve1988
apoc owned hulk who stalemates thor( thor's best showing of course)
Apoc choked Hulk, who was not even 616 Hulk (wouldn't make sense).
So... you're saying that Thor fighting Celestials (where Apoc gets his tiny amount of tech from), is not better than him stalemating Hulk?
Also, when he stalemates Hulk, he uses his strength, not his powers.
Apoc also stalemated Loki, who Thor has owned on MANY occasions.
OMG aBC logc teh fiunniest!!!!11
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Feb 22nd, 2007 03:09 AM
TricksterPriest
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Ok, the celestial feats are somewhat PISy. I'll give props for the Durok feat.
Swerve, quit it. I'm gonna get really pissed at you if you don't stop this shit......
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Feb 22nd, 2007 03:31 AM
swerve1988
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, the celestial feats are somewhat PISy. I'll give props for the Durok feat.
Swerve, quit it. I'm gonna get really pissed at you if you don't stop this shit......
i thought we agreed APOC has a chance of winning this fight
Feb 22nd, 2007 03:41 AM
One Big Mob
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, the celestial feats are somewhat PISy. I'll give props for the Durok feat.
Swerve, quit it. I'm gonna get really pissed at you if you don't stop this shit......
Why?
It isn't like it goes against his entire career, and we are only using three or so feats, and ignoring the rest of his comic history, by calling him "classic" Thor, even though one of his "classic" feats happened just a little while ago... whoops!
Oh ya... no hammer, and both Loki and Fenris have replicants of Thor's.
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