so what do ppl see the samurai bringing to this fight? b/c last i check they also have a pretty extensive arsenal minus shields as they find those to be dishonorable.
you wouldnt know anything about honor b/c ur a girl.
but ur right honorable combat was one of the many reasons they lost certain battles like the mongolians. something about being shot with arrows as they bowed and introduced themselves to a single combatant.
but they also learned from those moments like not every soldier is an honorable warrior..
which is why a samurai would just as likely pull out his pistol and shoot the lowborn spartan.
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I guess it doesn't, other than the Samurai were relevant more recently.
Nothing against the Spartans, but other than the Greco-Persian wars, they're not known for much. I'm a Greek history fan, and the other city states made history more than they did.
what had happen was that the mongolians or koreans whatever they wanna be called sent a recon small army on boat to japan where they ran into the samurai patrols... the samurai bowed to them and introduce themselves for honorable combat which the mongolians proceeded to shoot them with arrows in mass rather then fight in single combat.
the samurai later learned from this and in their second encounter with a much larger army the samurai no longer bowed to random opponents and they demolished their army.
Completely missed the point. A time frame is irrelevant, the fact is a tommy gun is vastly more effective than a musket, a katana is not vastly more effective than a xiphos.
No, it doesn't matter.
You're a Greek history fan and you didn't know Spartans were pretty much the most feared military power in Greece? Never heard of the Peloponnesian War or the Corinthian War? Sparta had control over most of Greece, this included Athens. The other city states made history because they had a rich culture, things like philosophy, mathematics, science, etc. The Spartans only focused on military prowess, I'm not sure what this has to do with this thread though.
I maintain what I said when this thread was first started.
The Spartans had nothing equivilent to a ronin. There aren't many epics or stories about lone Spartans riding off into the sunset. They fought as a single organism. The Samurai had a Me-ism mentality, the Spartans; We-ism. So I think that coupled with steel gives the Samurai the advantage in one-on-one.
exactly it is a way of life but the modern bushido is looked at more as MA now and few but dedicated ppl live it as a way of life...
besides nothing girlie when a spartan gets a finger stab to the throat crushing his larynx or eyes or a hyper extended or mangled ankle knee or elbow..
but depends on the arm lock and position of the body one can counter it and get out by using distraction blows or rolling into the arm bar b4 it can be properly set.. even by rapping ones legs into the opponents head or his own arm and reversing it.. not sure about what a bushido practitioner would do but i am sure it be more impressive then what i would imagine my busihido only extends less than a yr of sword fighting and video games...i sucked i kept closing my eyes and getting f#@#ked up by my Korean /tkd master in wpns fighting..
The match should have not been so close and the Spartan should have greatly beaten the samurai. The Spartan had many advantages over the samurai.
Steel is only good when your opponent doesn’t have armor.
Spartan had the better defense = the shield which was for defense and a heavy attack.
Also the fact that the Spartan was stronger due to his regimen and the weight of his armor did not slow him down as much as the samurai and his armor.
Both body armors were about around 60 pounds.
A Spartan was just as stronger than a bodybuilder and as fit as a runner and the weight didn’t affect them, so the faster more accurate warrior went to the Spartans.
The main weapon the katana was useless against the Spartan armor/shield. The Samurai 15 pound Kanabo was also useless against the shield and the Samurai would get tired from overuse. The Samurai bow was the best weapon but the Spartan went against so many arrows that the sky turned dark from them. So they have experience to know when to defend.
Remember the Spartans were in the Olympics before Japan. All around world class athletes.
Samurai used 2 hands for 1 weapon. Spartan use 1 hand for 1 for weapon, and the other for his shield (which was used as a weapon) 2 times the ass kicking.
Spartans trained all the time even when young which made them very skilled and very strong, also the fact they were taller than the samurai.
What the ninja and samurai had going for them is hype and the science help pop the hype bubble. But some people don’t want to see the truth.
As for a quick history lesson the martial arts first started in Greece. Anyone hear the story of how one Ancient Greek fighter did a 1 hit kill. The guy lost since the judges said it was a 5 hit kill since they counted every figure as a hit. When the Samurai can do that then they have a chance.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts
Japan was isolated and didn’t get experience to learn and adapt many skills unlike the Spartans. As one example the Samurai how they lost against the Mongols on the first encounter and then the samurai learned new tactics.
Remember weapons don’t do the job, people do.
If both Spartan and samurai were fighting hand to hand with only shorts on the Spartan would win since they are stronger, taller, and more skilled. Even if they were the same height strength the MMA fighters still beat up the Asian martial artists since the fight always goes to grappling.
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Apr 22nd, 2010 05:19 AM
All around world class athletes. 
