I wanted to see the faces from all that people that said that the katana was going to just cut through the shield like a butter bar. Besides as said already here, if the wins of the samurais depends on the arrows, not even a match, I doubt that their arrows were better or more than the Persian ones.
Although I do agree that the Spartans were great warriors, individually I would have to say the samurai would win. The Samurai's katana is a much better weapon than the Spartan xiphos. I don't see how anyone could argue that. Steel vs bronze is no contest. Also, the katana is much lighter, longer and more durable than the Spartan sword.
The spartan would likely be using his spear, or dory, which would give him reach advantage but would not be particularly useful against a samurai imo. Despite what some have said about the Spartan throwing it at the samurai, the spear was not weighted for throwing but for thrusting. This was why it had the utt-spike on the end, known as a lizard killer. It allowed them to finish off wounded men but also stabilized the spear when held over head for thrusting at the enemies heads. I think a samurai would easily be ale to cut through the shaft and then it would come to close range fighting, shield and short sword vs katana.
Most posts I read from people who believe the Spartan would win based their argument on the hoplon (shield), but I think this would be the Spartans downfall. The shield was approximately 18 lbs, and the reason it was curved was to allow the hoplite to rest the weight of it on his shoulder in battle. It would be exhausting, and it was not designed with one on one combat in mind. Spartans only fought in phalanx formations when they went to war, and they didn't fight in duels, or at least not in any of the accounts I have read. It was designed to protect against spear thrusts and to push against an opposing phalanx of similarly armed men. They destroyed the Persian armies because the phalanx tactic was conducive for facing a large mob of lightly armed, untrained men, with no real incentive to fight besides being punished by their King. But one on one against a trained samurai, the shield would only delay the inevitable. Not to mention the Spartan's armour adds another 50 lbs. to the weight he has to carry.
I have a lot of respect for the Spartan tactics in war, as they were used at the time, but one on one Samurai would win hands down.
Sorry if I missed this, but how did you get this info? From Deadliest Warriors? Because I don't they put a Spartan vs a Samurai.
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Alright guys, listen up, this is the truth about the spartans and samurai
TECHNOLOGY.
spartans used basicaly daggers, swrods, spears,shields ALL MADE OF BRONZE
samurai used Long bow in ancient times, but then reverted to the use of spears. then theres the wakizashi, tantos,katanas, and msotly used domaru armor. SAMRUAI BLADES WERE MADE OF STEEL
so technology wise, samurais would win.
so now lets talk about how the spartans train compared to the samurai
the average Spartan warrior starting their training at the age of 7. they stoped training at the age of 20. thats 13 years...almost as old as i am.
The samurai, had to know sepuku, bushido the 7 Principles of Samurai,1. Gi: the right decision, taken with equanimity, the right attitude, the truth. When we must die, we must die. Rectitude.
1. Gi: the right decision, taken with equanimity, the right attitude, the truth. When we must die, we must die. Rectitude.
2. Yu: bravery tinged with heroism.
4. Rei: right action--a most essential quality, courtesy.
5. Makoto: utter sincerity; truthfulness.
ó. Melyo: honor and glory.
7. Chugo: devotion, loyalty.
then theres kenjutsu the art of swordfighting, kyudo japanese archy skills, ba jutsu, the art of horseriding and how to fight while on a horse and using the bow on a horse. and not to mention the samurai knew MARTIAL ARTS. Jujutsu and Judo.
spartans use a formation called phalanx, which is about 8spartans wide and 8 spartaing in length.spartains would rotate sides so they wouldnt tire and recharge after battles.samurais used multiple formations like ganko,hoshi, saku, etc
Spartans didnt support new ideas and wealth. so their whole modern life is based on war. samurais also knew poetry, how to read and write, ect. so samurais have more potential than sparta, for example, since the samurai world did support ideas, they COULD have built weapons like canons and such to take down sparta.
now then, make your choice using the information ive collected and have now put into this reply.
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A Spartan would beat a Samurai everytime. Spatans may lack armor but the one piece of equipment that they possess which gives them an unmatched advantage is their shield. It may seem trivial but the Spartan shield was not only masterfully designed but it was also made to be apart of their fighting tactics. With their shields the Spartans have the luxury of forcing the Samurai to make the first move.
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perhaps 300 will prove me wrong, but I'm thinking the Samurai, who I feel is quicker and more flexible, and has a more powerful sword will be able to kill him.
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I will admit that the Spartans are the stronger, more warlike people. However, the Samurai were highly skilled warriors. Samurai duels worked like this. Either both would charge each other, or one would charge the other. In the latter case, the samurai would look for an opening in the attack and counter accordingly. Spartan warfare was anything but precise. They would strike at each other until one person wore out and was killed, either that, or one would give such a powerful blow that the other would reel back and then be slain. Samurai go for the fastest kill possible. Not only that, samurai weaponry was crafted by extremely skilled artisans and had very sharp blades. The blades were also curved, giving them great cutting capabilities.
The only way I could see the Spartan winning is if he managed to bash the samurai with his shield and temporarily stun him. However, his armor would greatly slow down his movements, giving the edge to the samurai again
That isn't historically accurate. It's a misconception.
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