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In the end, it wont' matter, your still going to have your opinion and you will claim something like PIS, or DS is weaker or WTF ever. But I'll post the links.
While I agree that its not concrete proof, its clear (to me at least) that these lords of Chaos and Order were actually AFRAID of Darkseid.
Now, he didn't defeat them in a fight or anything, but these are very cosmicly tuned beings, so I'm quite sure that they would know exactly how powerful he is, in comparison to their power.
Keep in mind, Nabu is a Lord of Order.
I'd post the links to the events myself, but apparently I don't have enough posts under my belt to do that.
That said, if you are trying to find the Darkseid respect thread, go to the Comic Edge Battleboard.
I don't know about that. Odin created a pocket universe. Has Darkseid ever done that?
I agree that with the Wipeout beams, Darkseid would kill Thanos. That said, we've seen energy deflect them twice before (Orion and Superman). So its not inconcievable that he could deflect them somehow.
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Orion is made to kill DS and Superman is protected by the source. Odin also stated to all of asgard that it was beyond thier reconning to beat DS. So you tell me.
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It's the same DS. DS hasn't changed. All of his feats are still his. That is the point i'm trying to make. There is no precrisis and post crisis DS. he's all one and the same.
Odin battles and kills Forsung. This battle spanned across the Universe in moments, was said to destroy planets like ant hills, and leave new burning suns.
A piece of Odin's mind called Infinity starts to consume the 616 universe. After Odin wakes up Odin battles him, and restores all the lives and planets that were destroyed during the ordeal. He also uses TP to wipe everyones mind...
Odin has alo Caused shockwabes through out the multiverse, created a pocket universe, destroyed galaxies, etc. It was also stated in Ragnarok that Odin's making of Mjolnir created earth.
Now lets see Darkseid do anything in this lv of power.
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Yes, Orion used his Astro Force a powerful weapon in its own right to deflect the beams, but that doesn't change the fact we have an idea of how powerful the Astro Force and it isn't some unbeatable energy source. Since it was never mentioned that there were special circumstances (in regards to only Orion being able to kill Darkseid), there is no reason to think that had an effect here.
And Superman has been beaten plenty of times. Source wasn't protecting him there, eh?
Firestorm has likewise deflected the Omega Beams before.
Right, because of the forces he wielded, his resources. Asgard couldn't defeat Darkseid because, in part, of the armies he commanded.
Which goes to show the kind of power he has on a grand scale, but not his personal power.
The New Gods' continuity has changed a little bit here and there, though. And while they weren't effected by Crisis, they WERE effected by Zero Hour.
And regardless of whether that Darkseid is different from the current Darkseid, what I'm saying is that its just one showing for the character.
Kind of how Virtue and Vice was just one showing for Despero, but he has had other, lower showings (like being beaten around by Aquaman). V&V still counts, but its not necessarily the level he operates all the time.
Same with Darkseid and GDS. Most of the time, he isn't shown to be that powerful.
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Actually DS has hurt the AM and absorbed the power of all those pantheons he killed. ANd as for the Astro force, you are incorrect, the astro force is the exact oppostie of the OE. THey are flip sides of the same coin.
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DS Stopped the power of The God Wave, He also Hurt The AM, and has Hurt Imperiex, He has destroyed Galaxies and Planets with his mere presence, and even was able to heal the source along with High father. When ODin can heal half the power of the Heart of the Universe, let me know. I'm not impressed with Odin. He's not any more powerful than DS. SOrry buddy.
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Well, Shazam was using the magical artifacts of his realm to help him out.
The only thing that being on Apokolips did for Hal Spectre was make him murderously angry (more of an advantage than a disadvantage, I think).
Agreed here...I don't see any evidence that Highfather is as powerful as Odin. He's had some impressive showings, undoubtedly, as what he did in GDS or the way he undoes what Darkseid does, or his casual dismissal of near-top tiers, etc.
Probably not as impressive, though, as transporting two worlds with the Omegas.
Really more in line with what Highfather did, which is transport the two populations from one world to the other.
Meh, Masterson Thor has done pretty well against Annihilus too.
Definitely more impressive than anything we've seen from Darkseid, Highfather or Thanos.
This was retconned. Odin was tapping into the cosmic being "Infinity"'s power to do all that.
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