Planet shaking is the power of moljnir and not Thor's strength. But at the same time, most of Dianna greatest feats are based on her propulsion powers rather than her strength. Her greatest strength feat has got to be the recent Sacrifice fight with Superman, as this was Superman in Blood lust mode. A Blood-lust Superman would own the traditional form of the Hulk (Maybe not current WW Hulk).
If Superman can shake the planet while punching someone high up in the atmosphere, I'm sure someone who is almost as strong could do the same at ground level.
I never said it gives him strength, but Thor has only shaken planets when he has used Moljnir. Moljnir substantially increases the concussive force of Thor's blows, hence why he rarely uses it when facing mortals.
The moon incident is not a strength feat, its a propulsion/power and Durability feat.
Wonder Woman cannot lift or Military bench press one third of the moon. In fact the heaviest thing she has ever lifted without using her flight powers is paradise island.
It's not. The force needed to move the moon provided by her flight is also applied to the muscles of her arms as she holds it. If she didn't have sufficient strength she would not be able to hold it.
In the pictures it clearly shows their muscles are straining.
Lets use pushing instead of pulling. For example Superman pushes the moon. You've said before that would be pure thrust, its not. Go over to a wall and put your hands against it. Now push forwards with your legs. You'll feel a strain in your arms. The muscles are doing work to stop you going face first into the wall. It would be the same if you were flying instead of using your legs.
If Wonder woman lay down face first on the moon and pushed it would be pure thrust. Due to the way the human body works any other position requires a comparative level of strength to the amount of thrust.
That example is out of context as people cannot self propel themselves by magic/gravitons The muscles are straining due to the immense forces trying to rip her apart.
It's in context. The legs and flight are just different forms of thrust and more exotic forms have flight don't behave differently from more normal ones such as rockets. It's not like she's using telekinesis to move the moon.
This is no difference to a strong man pulling a truck. His arms are still doing work.
Indeed, the immense force coming from the chain she's pulling with her arms, using the muscles in those arms. The only other forces acting on her are the moon's and Earth's gravity which are negligible to her.
Butt her flight doesn't involve any form of thrust, shes Self propelling her self, i.e. there no expenditure of any substance thats intrinsic to thrust. For all we know her magical powers warp space like gravity does.
Im saying she has the power to move the moon, but not the mechanism to translate that power into strength. This is evident by various other strength feats, including punching power against weaker opponents and struggeling with far smaller objects. The same applies to Superman, Martian Manhunter and Captain Marvel, all of whom are usually flying when they are performing their more impressive feats.
I'd argue that lesser objects that she struggled with are low showings. It's also impossible to move a planet without flight. Without flight your just doing a handstand.
Superman has punched moons in two. He's shattered reality with his fists and has shook the planet while fighting in high orbit. Those are reflect pretty well as someone who has the strength to mover planets.
He's also lifted a dust sized black hole. To make an molecule sized black hole you need enough mass to fill the grand canyon. Think how much mass is needed to make a dust sized one. That was pure lifting strength. Wonder Woman is around the same strength level.
Which would still mean she's going forward and anything she pushes against with her arms while flying would put strain on her muscles and require strength.
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Um no. WW's greatest Strength feat is Pulling one third of the Earth's weight Against the power of the sun's gravity. If you take the mass of the sun, and compare it to the mass of the earth, and then take that number and apply it to the weight of the earth in multiples, adding in the other planet's gravity that sustain the solar system's equinox, the weight they were pulling would be like pulling 100 Earths.
And just for the record, Barda has held the weight of a continent and WW beat her in hand to hand. Also Diana has held up the Texas Sized meteor that was falling from space that Not even Terra could stop. Terra moves mountains like we move playing cards.
No, crushing Exitars dome and nearly driving the Odin Sword through Arshiem are more impressive imo. Also closing a dimensional rift by punching isn't half bad.
I guarantee the Midgard Serpent weighed more than the Spectre did during the time that feat took place.
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the Spectre says that he housed the weight of the concious of eternity. And I dont' know what Thor did to exitar's dome. was this with his fist or with his hammer? one could say that it was impressive that WW drove the sword of hephestious thru the uber powerful Gog. Weapons are debatable.
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