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ADarksideJedi
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I still think Harry is going to die a hero and I know he is the boy who lived but that does not mean that he will not be the boy who dead while kiling the dark Lord and saving everyone!jm

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Englishpin@pple
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RAB= reagulas A??? Black

harry is a horecrux (duh)

ron or hermoine dies *tear*

sirius has inhabitied the two way mirror

just thoughts....

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Lol
You reacted exactly the way I thought you would.

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Originally posted by Englishpin@pple
RAB= reagulas A??? Black

harry is a horecrux (duh)

ron or hermoine dies *tear*

sirius has inhabitied the two way mirror

just thoughts....

Regulas no proven, Harry is not the last horcrux I have personally despelled any thought of that (please read the thread entitled Horcruxes on the reason), Ron and Hermione dying I can see and I believe it was in here that they will die and why I think so but then again I don't have enough evidence to pass it.

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ADarksideJedi
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Englishpin@pple
RAB= reagulas A??? Black

harry is a horecrux (duh)

ron or hermoine dies *tear*

sirius has inhabitied the two way mirror

just thoughts....

I don't think Harry is or Ron or Hermonie dies.I am going to stick to harry dieing a hero after killing the dark lord acrouse!Sirius having the two way mirror is possible. When reading the book I thought the same thing.
Having him come back will be a copy off from "Lord of the RIngs" book so I hope that is not what she is planning through it would make me happy.Jm eek!

Apr 10th, 2007 02:41 AM

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Harry tried the two way mirror at the end of Phoenix, folks. Not happening.

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ADarksideJedi
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You never know it may happen.Maybe it works only some time but not all the time.This is harry potter we are talking about where anything could happen!jm

Apr 10th, 2007 03:24 PM

Englishpin@pple
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Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I don't think Harry is or Ron or Hermonie dies.I am going to stick to harry dieing a hero after killing the dark lord acrouse!Sirius having the two way mirror is possible. When reading the book I thought the same thing.
Having him come back will be a copy off from "Lord of the RIngs" book so I hope that is not what she is planning through it would make me happy.Jm

yep LOTR lol

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Harry tried the two way mirror at the end of Phoenix, folks. Not happening.

the next book is susspose to tell us y ppl be come ghosts...

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Regulas no proven, Harry is not the last horcrux I have personally despelled any thought of that (please read the thread entitled Horcruxes on the reason), Ron and Hermione dying I can see and I believe it was in here that they will die and why I think so but then again I don't have enough evidence to pass it.

I only say regulas b/c the intials add up i thuoght him or dumbledores

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Apr 10th, 2007 09:27 PM

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Harry tried the two way mirror at the end of Phoenix, folks. Not happening.

Well those mirrors are going to be seen in the next book.

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Apr 11th, 2007 01:20 AM

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the next book is susspose to tell us y ppl be come ghosts...

I only say regulas b/c the intials add up i thuoght him or dumbledores

brother

I thought that Nearly Headless nick exlpained why people become ghosts at the end of Order of the Phoenix - when Harry was so desperate for a way to connect with Sirius, and wanting to know if Sirius would be a ghost.

Dumbledore's brother first name is Aberforth, though?

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ADarksideJedi
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We are supose to find out about ghost.In book two they really did not say much on it.Jm

Apr 11th, 2007 02:57 AM

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We are supose to find out about ghost.In book two they really did not say much on it.Jm

I believe in book 5, as siriuswriter said, Nearly Headless Nick explained a bit.

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Apr 11th, 2007 03:00 AM

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Yes,but(I think!) he said noone quite knew anything about how some people turn into ghosts while some dont.
I'm thinking,however,though that only the people who are mudered in a surprise turn into ghosts.Like Moaning Myrtle.

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To settle the ghosts argument a bit, I have pulled out OotP. This is a long quote, so sit back and relax, everyone.

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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, pp 860-863
Harry opened the nearest door of the nearest classroom and Nearly Headless Nick sighed.

"Oh very well," he said, looking resigned. "I can't pretend I haven't been expecting it."

Harry was holding the door open for him, but he drifted through the wall instead.

"Expecting what?" Harry asked, as he closed the door.

"You to come and find me," said Nick, now gliding over to the window and looking out at the darkening grounds. "It happens, sometimes... when somebody has suffered... a loss."

"Well," said Harry, refusing to be deflected. "You were right. I've -- I've come ot find you."

Nick said nothing.

"It's-- " said Harry, who was finding this more awkward than he had anticipated, "it's just -- you're dead. But you're still here, aren't you?"

Nick sighed and continued to gaze out at the grounds.

"That's right, isn't it?" Harry urged him. "You died, but I'm talking to you... You can walk around Hogwarts and everything, can't you?"

"Yes," said Nearly Headless Nick quietly, "I walk and talk, yes."

"So, you came back, didn't you?" Harry said urgently. "People can come back, right? As ghosts. They don't have to disappear completely. Well?" he added impatiently, when Nick continued to say nothing.

Nearly Headless Nick hesitated, then said, "Not everyone can come back as a ghost."

"What d'you mean?" Harry said quickly.

"Only... only wizards."

"Oh," said Harry, and he almost laughed with relief. "Well, that's okay then, the person I'm asking about is a wizard. So he can come back, right?"

Nick turned away from the window and looked mournfully at Harry. "He won't come back."

"Who?"

"Sirius Black," said Nick.

"But you did!" said Harry angrily. "You came back -- you're dead and you didn't disappear --"

"Wizards can leave an imprint of themselves upon the earth, to walk palely where their living selves once trod," said Nick miserably. "But very few wizards choose that path."

"Why not?" said Harry. "Anyway -- it doesn't matter --Sirius won't care if it's unusual, he'll come back, I know he will!"

And so strong was his belief that Harry actually turned his head to check the door, sure, for a split second, that he was going to see Sirius, pearly white and transparent but beaming, walking through it toward him.

"He will not come back," repeated Nick quietly. "He will have... gone on."

"What d'you mean, 'gone on'?" said Harry quickly. "Gone on to where? Listen -- what happens when you die, anyway? Where do you go? Why doesn't everyone come back? Why isn't this place full of ghosts? Why --?"

"I cannot answer," said Nick.

"You're dead, aren't you?" said Harry exasperatedly. "Who can answer better than you?"

"I was afraid of death," said Nick. "I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder whether I oughtn't to have... Well, that is neither here nor there.... In fact, I am neither here nor there...." He gave a small sad chuckle. "I know nothing of the secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life instead. I believe learned wizards study the matter in the Department of Mysteries --"

"Don't talk to me of that place!" said Harry fiercely.

"I am sorry not to have been more help," said Nick gently. "Well... well, do excuse me... the feast, you know..."

And he left the room, leaving Harry alone, gazing blankly at the wall through which Nick had disappeared.

D'ya read it? Mmkay.

I tried to get all the punctuation, italicizing, and everything right so meh if I have a typo or two.

After typing it about fifty times, this firmly reinforces my belief that Sirius is not coming back.

It also reinforces my belief that Order of the Phoenix is going to be our main source of information about ghosts, although Nick mentions the Dept. of Mysteries studies them, I don't think we're going to learn more about them. I think this is it folks. Shall we move on?

ETA: That looks so much smaller in the post than it felt when I was typing it all out... sad

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Apr 11th, 2007 05:42 AM

ADarksideJedi
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It always looks smaller.You still never know about the mirror through.Nothing is what is expected in those books so I would not be surprise if something comes up abot the mirror we do not know about.jm

Apr 11th, 2007 11:57 AM

fozzy2k5
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You have to face the fact that sirius wont be coming back , harry will track down the horcruxes and will kill himself to rid them all of volemort. lupin and tonks will possibly marry. I think sometihing horrible will happen at the Bill-Fleur wedding , death eaters show up stuf like that

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Englishpin@pple
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hmmmm..... there all good arugments

but wat waz the veil????? did it really kill him

or stick him in limbo like mountegue in the closet when the weasley

twins stuffed him in there so since the other one waz

broken he waz stuck????? i dunno just another thought....

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Apr 11th, 2007 04:10 PM

siriuswriter
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The veil killed Sirius.

It killed him.

He's DEAD!!

DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!

Dumbledore's said it, Lupin's said it, Nearly Headless Nick's said it, Malfoy's said it, Bellatrix's said it. EVERYBODY'S SAID IT!!!

HE'S DEAD!!!

*resumes breathing*

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Apr 11th, 2007 04:34 PM