I'm sorry but that is not what the prophecy means. The definitions that you provided are both referring to it being one or the other so the prophecy indicates that only one of them has to die whether if its Harry or Voldemort. They both can't die at the same time because that would just be adding insult to the injuries that Harry has suffered throughout this series so he must survive.
Let's talk about Lily and Snape. I think there is a connection between the two. I would even go as far as to say that Snape and Lily are related. Maybe brother and sister or something. The books never tell us why Snape turned good. What if he turned good when he learned of the Dark Lord's plan to kill the Potters? What if Snape blaims James for Lily's death, and he sees so much of James in Harry and hates him for it?
Someone had to tell the Order about the Dark Lord's plan, so maybe it was Snape having a change of heart when it came to the death of his sister.
Tell me what you think.
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Okay I searched for Book 7 PREDICTIONS threads and found none...obviously there are discussion threads, but none dedicated strictly to predictions so I thought I'd create one.
Please post your predictions (no matter how big or small) and hopefully some sort of explanation on why you feel this will come true.
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(1) I think that Harry will die. This is primarily a gut feeling, as I just cannot imagine Harry living while other characters besides Voldemort die. What will Harry do after staying alive, especially considering that in death he'd be reunited with his parents, Sirius, and Dumbledore?
(2) I think that Voldemort will survive (in a manner of speaking), which would back the prophecy that neither can live while the other survives. However, I believe that Harry will sacrifice himself in order to take away Voldemort's magical powers, which would leave Voldemort as a Muggle...the very thing that he hates the most. This would be worse than death for Voldemort (which Dumbledore has been saying for the whole series that Voldy doesn't realize that there are things worse than death)...perhaps Voldemort will be so humiliated that he'll end his own life or get a Dementor's kiss. I wrote a fanfic where this happens: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...omplete-version
(3) I believe that Aunt Petunia will show an alarmingly powerful display of magic out of desperation. I just have a feeling that JK will reveal a lot more (truth) about her character.
(4) Severus Snape is bad. I WANT to believe that he's good but I just think that he was waiting to see which side he thought would come out on top and made his choice when seeing Dumbledore helpless in HPB. I think that Albus just made a BIG mistake, and he does say in one of the books taht because his mind is greater than most, his mistakes are usually greater as well.
(5) I think that Dumbledore accidentally had something to do with the death of Harry's parents. I say this because of what he spoke (involuntarily) after drinking the green matter in the cave for the (fake) horcrux. Something like, "No, it's all my fault...kill me instead." Who else would he be speaking of?
(6) Lastly, I hate to say it but I think that Hagrid will be one of the two main characters to die (the other being Harry as I said earlier). I just have a feeling that he'll die saving one of Harry's crew...no basis other than that though lol. More people will die than just two though I think. I think Moody and Bellatrix are most likely to die...whereas I think Mrs. Weasley and Lupin are almost locks to survive.
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(1) I think that Harry will die. This is primarily a gut feeling, as I just cannot imagine Harry living while other characters besides Voldemort die. What will Harry do after staying alive, especially considering that in death he'd be reunited with his parents, Sirius, and Dumbledore?
(2) I think that Voldemort will survive (in a manner of speaking), which would back the prophecy that neither can live while the other survives. However, I believe that Harry will sacrifice himself in order to take away Voldemort's magical powers, which would leave Voldemort as a Muggle...the very thing that he hates the most. This would be worse than death for Voldemort (which Dumbledore has been saying for the whole series that Voldy doesn't realize that there are things worse than death)...perhaps Voldemort will be so humiliated that he'll end his own life or get a Dementor's kiss. I wrote a fanfic where this happens: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...omplete-version
(3) I believe that Aunt Petunia will show an alarmingly powerful display of magic out of desperation. I just have a feeling that JK will reveal a lot more (truth) about her character.
(4) Severus Snape is bad. I WANT to believe that he's good but I just think that he was waiting to see which side he thought would come out on top and made his choice when seeing Dumbledore helpless in HPB. I think that Albus just made a BIG mistake, and he does say in one of the books taht because his mind is greater than most, his mistakes are usually greater as well.
(5) I think that Dumbledore accidentally had something to do with the death of Harry's parents. I say this because of what he spoke (involuntarily) after drinking the green matter in the cave for the (fake) horcrux. Something like, "No, it's all my fault...kill me instead." Who else would he be speaking of?
(6) Lastly, I hate to say it but I think that Hagrid will be one of the two main characters to die (the other being Harry as I said earlier). I just have a feeling that he'll die saving one of Harry's crew...no basis other than that though lol. More people will die than just two though I think. I think Moody and Bellatrix are most likely to die...whereas I think Mrs. Weasley and Lupin are almost locks to survive.
Thoughts/Predictions???
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Ok, I just briefly brush over all of this and this stood out to me. I totally agree with you here. So many people say no, it wont happen, JKR said she isn't a squib. BUT, JKR did say some people can do magic late in their life, though it is rare. So I believe it can happen.
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Ok, I just briefly brush over all of this and this stood out to me. I totally agree with you here. So many people say no, it wont happen, JKR said she isn't a squib. BUT, JKR did say some people can do magic late in their life, though it is rare. So I believe it can happen.
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Did she say that? Well, come to think of it I forgot to mention that Wormtail will probably have a pivotal role in Voldemort's downfall since he owes Harry his life. Perhaps when Voldemort loses his powers he'll plead to Wormtail to attack/kill some characters and Wormtail will refuse or something like that. We'll see.
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I have to disagree with your Snape prediction.
At JK's reading of Harry, Carrie, and Garp, Salman Rushdie and his son were there. They asked an exceedingly convoluted question (in proper Salman Rushdie style) that basically boiled down to Snape is/was good at the base of his being. It took a long time for me to figure that out of the transcripts, believe me. Well, so the two of them basically stated this long convoluted theory and then asked, "Is this right?" and JK simply said, "Yes."
Thanks, Jo.
Anyway, I disagree with you about Snape. But I do not think it's as clear as "He is good!!" I think that if we dig deep down into him, we might find a small grain of goodness, fighting to get out. But boy, have we got to dig through the bad to get there. I see him somewhat like the Grinch; his heart is just three times too small, and there's just going to be that one thing that will set him off. Will it be something that reminds him of Lily? Will it be a Dumbledore-ism? Will it be tiny children singing in a circle in Whoo-ville? I just don't know. But I have a feeling it will happen. And he will be snarky and sarcastic and go good kicking and screaming. But it will happen.
As to Hagrid dying, I agree. Not only did JK practically let it slip at the Harry, Carrie, and Garp reading in New York ("Which characters would you eat dinner with?" "Hagrid. Well, do they have to be alive?" Whoops.) But I feel that he's got to go down fighting. Hagrid's served his purpose to us, and Harry has got to lose yet another fatherly, brotherly, friendily, figure to make him want to go on.
Ah well. My opinions anyway.
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I really don't want to believe that snape's good bt even if he is,I really son't care.I just want Harry to die at the end.It's a funny thing to say for an HP fan,bt I REALLY want harry to die.n I just hope he'll give up on Ginny.It's a sick match!!!
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