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I don't know what people were expecting. These were the guys who made Lost, after all...


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True...but he also made Cloverfield which was ace.


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Lost was eventually proved awesome, once it revealed its true nature in the last couple of seasons.. And they totally justified the slower exposition focused early seasons.


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Lost bored me...it dragged on sooooooooooooo long and explained nothing until everyone's brains were flopping out of their ears...

Cloverfield was very good, and proved Abrams worth...

Star Trek was Epic...end of...


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I don't know what people were expecting. These were the guys who made Lost, after all...


Actually the plot was written by the people who wrote the latest Transformers. So, it wasn't like they had a ton to work with.


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Actually the plot was written by the people who wrote the latest Transformers. So, it wasn't like they had a ton to work with.


Now thats definitely more likely to be where the problem lies.

Good call, SC.


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Lost bored me...it dragged on sooooooooooooo long and explained nothing until everyone's brains were flopping out of their ears...

Cloverfield was very good, and proved Abrams worth...

Star Trek was Epic...end of...


And then they explained a bunch of stuff, and revealed a bunch of stuff that those who quit earlier would never get hip to....leaving them often with just that opinion. Its just really grounded in single timeline paradoxless time travel but spread in its intricate web over 6 seasons with its mulitude of interwoven storyarcs.

And features black holes too.

BTW the red ball thing, is a personal thing of Abrams.

Like a trademark.

(Now it a red ball is at the center of this island controlling everything, Im gonna be really f***ed off. stick out tongue)


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And then they explained a bunch of stuff, and revealed a bunch of stuff that those who quit earlier would never get hip to....leaving them often with just that opinion. Its just really grounded in single timeline paradoxless time travel but spread in its intricate web over 6 seasons with its mulitude of interwoven storyarcs.

And features black holes too.

BTW the red ball thing, is a personal thing of Abrams.

Like a trademark.

(Now it a red ball is at the center of this island controlling everything, Im gonna be really f***ed off. stick out tongue)


haha

i do here a lot about Lost from some of my friends, and im just like: "i lost interest in this so long ago, why's it interesting". I guess if it's taken 6 seasons for Abrams to explain it a bit better fair do's but for the people that like to watch something and get the general gist of the story from the get go, he's not done a great job...

films on the other hand or better for Abrams style of story telling. Cloverfield for example, nothing was known about it until a week before its theatrical release. Viral campaigning saying nothing about the overall plot, and even the film itself, doesn't explain much, but people loved it...


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Actually the plot was written by the people who wrote the latest Transformers. So, it wasn't like they had a ton to work with.
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that sort of backs up my point. written by guys whose writing credits incdlue Transformers (which had a silly plot), Fringe (which is just silly, again), and Alias, which, well, i don't have to go on to that.

and Abrams did direct. His input was as important as the writers (if not moreso).

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Lost was eventually proved awesome, once it revealed its true nature in the last couple of seasons.. And they totally justified the slower exposition focused early seasons.




out. now.


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I should be saying the same to you there, a man of otherwise discerning taste....

You shocked me, Raoul...!
With your cold non-lost-loving words right in my eyeholes.

I might not sleep tonight now and its all your fault, shatterer of world views.. stick out tongue


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stick out tongue

I should be saying the same to you there, a man of otherwise discerning taste....

You shocked me, Raoul...!
With your cold non-lost-loving words right in my eyeholes.

I might not sleep tonight now and its all your fault, shatterer of world views.. stick out tongue


laughing out loud

i watch it vicariously, because my brother watches it and then decides to tell me every last bloody detail of the episode he just watched, not realising that i don't care about the guy who is and isn't locke, or the giant statue, or the constant time travel, or dead people appearing miraculously on the island.


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haha

i do here a lot about Lost from some of my friends, and im just like: "i lost interest in this so long ago, why's it interesting". I guess if it's taken 6 seasons for Abrams to explain it a bit better fair do's but for the people that like to watch something and get the general gist of the story from the get go, he's not done a great job...

films on the other hand or better for Abrams style of story telling. Cloverfield for example, nothing was known about it until a week before its theatrical release. Viral campaigning saying nothing about the overall plot, and even the film itself, doesn't explain much, but people loved it...


Well its chiefly Lindelhof.

But LOST were trying to tell a definite story arc but had no idea at what angle to arc it at, without having an end point.

When they producers negotiated with ABC/Disney etc, they managed to say 6 seasons, so there was a slower pace up until half way through season 3, which is when they started to be able to execute it and bring the big pieces into play.
Thats when the plot went to warp finally.

But yeah the first 6 or so episodes of season 3 were murder for the viewer, be you fan or non fan.


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i watch it vicariously, because my brother watches it and then decides to tell me every last bloody detail of the episode he just watched, not realising that i don't care about the guy who is and isn't locke, or the giant statue, or the constant time travel, or dead people appearing miraculously on the island.


Oh shit!

Im not surprised, cause its so involved now and interlocked that its almost impossible to convey whats going on, because of the sheer volume of stuff now. And any attempt to get across the appeal and genius with mere words is doomed to fail.

And like you say, if you arent invested in the plot/characters it would sound like the rantings and ravings of a lunatic even more so...

You definitely have to experience it first hand to get the best of it.


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Re: J.J. Abrams Star Trek 2008

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"Star Wars is probably the most influential film of my generation. It's the personification of good and evil and the way it opened up the world to space adventure, the way westerns had to our parents' generations, left an indelible imprint. So, in a way, everything that any of us does is somehow directly or indirectly affected by the experience of seeing those first three films."

J. J. Abrams

Given this quote and the fact it's a reboot of the original series as a movie which he has said was his favourite show as a child.
What can we expect?
A labour of love and something truly special?


Sheer Genius!!

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Sheer Genius!!
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No very subtle these days.


I think the Administration might disagree if hey were honest with you Bada. wink

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seems there will be a director's cut or special edition dvd/blu-ray with more scenes...

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/...-you-didnt-see/


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Question: what kind of a name is Nero for a Romulan?


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Question: what kind of a name is Nero for a Romulan?


http://www.sector001.com/species/romulans.shtml


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So what you're saying is that Romulans have totally random names with no actual pattern to them?


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