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Smile Ranks for MAs

Ok we have got ranks for all super heroes in general what about Martial artists. Ok let me suggest a ranking.

Current Hierarchy [173]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, Thanos

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [7]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists") [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [52]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [55]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [27]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy


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US Agent should be second tier IMO, seeing as he managed to batter Hawkeye who was atleast low top/high second.

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Originally posted by CasanoVa
US Agent should be second tier IMO, seeing as he managed to batter Hawkeye who was atleast low top/high second.


That might be because Hawkeye doesnt have that much durability. Remember we are talking skill here.

I think Spiderman can beat Shang Chi but nor because of his knowledge of fighting but because of his superhuman stats.


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US Agent could be second tier, and Punisher should be third.

Throw in Danny Rand with Shang Chi, and put T'Challa in the class right below them.


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Batman should be up there with Cap.


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Originally posted by Alfheim
That might be because Hawkeye doesnt have that much durability. Remember we are talking skill here.

I think Spiderman can beat Shang Chi but nor because of his knowledge of fighting but because of his superhuman stats.


Hawkeye was wearing armour at the time actually, have you seen the fight? He's plenty skillfull.

Take a look:


http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,119056.0.html

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Originally posted by Soljer
US Agent could be second tier, and Punisher should be third.

Throw in Danny Rand with Shang Chi, and put T'Challa in the class right below them.


How the hell is Punisher third tier? Tchalla is second tier What the f**k?

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Hawkeye was wearing armour at the time actually, have you seen the fight? He's plenty skillfull.

Take a look:


http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,119056.0.html


Ok second tier its is.


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Originally posted by Alfheim
How the hell is Punisher third tier? Tchalla is second tier What the f**k?



Ok second tier its is.


Punisher is second tier IMO, and T'Challa is definetly first tier.

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Originally posted by CasanoVa
Punisher is second tier IMO, and T'Challa is definetly first tier.


Exactly.


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Couldn't this just go into the regular tier thread? It's basically just creating a needless sub-category for something we're already documenting.


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Couldn't this just go into the regular tier thread? It's basically just creating a needless sub-category for something we're already documenting.


Well you're the mod. But as far as I can see this is something different. the other thread is ranking based on their overall powers. This is ranking specfically for MA skill.

For example Spiderman is highier in the other rankign but is bottom on this.


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Fair enough. Proceed.


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midnight sun is probably cosmic tier


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KarateKid for CosmicTier


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Cosmic tier: (Can damage class100s with no problem)
Mantis, Gamora, Midnight Sun, Karate Kid

Uber tier: (Better than the greatest martial artists)
Stick, Gorgon

Top tier: (Are usually given the title "is one of the greatest martial artists in the world.")
Cap, DD, Wolverine, Shang Chi, Black Panther, Batman, Deadpool, Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, Green Arrow, Taskmaster, Elecktra (not sure about this one), Kingpin, Shin Kuei, Iron Fist

Second tier: (Close behind the best)
Punisher, Black Widow, USA Agent, Nick Fury, Azarel (mainly brute strength rather than skill), Bullseye, Moon Knight

Third tier: (Has MA training and experience, but not particularly good.....meh!)
Agents of Shield

Accomplished fighter: (May have alot of experience but very little formal training.
Spiderman, Luke Cage, Beast

By the way who is Midnight Sun did he get reincarnated by the Kree to fight the surfer?


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Are they in order? as in going from the best (from the left) to the worst (to the right).

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Originally posted by CasanoVa
Are they in order? as in going from the best (from the left) to the worst (to the right).


Well no not from left to right. Top to bottom is in order. In all fairness that would be really difficult to do for some of them.


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Originally posted by Alfheim
Cosmic tier: (Can damage class100s with no problem)
Mantis, Gamora, Midnight Sun, Karate Kid

Uber tier: (Better than the greatest martial artists)
Stick, Gorgon

Top tier: (Are usually given the title "is one of the greatest martial artists in the world.")
Cap, DD, Wolverine, Shang Chi, Black Panther, Batman, Deadpool, Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, Green Arrow, Taskmaster, Elecktra (not sure about this one), Kingpin, Shin Kuei, Iron Fist

Second tier: (Close behind the best)
Punisher, Black Widow, USA Agent, Nick Fury, Azarel (mainly brute strength rather than skill), Bullseye, Moon Knight

Third tier: (Has MA training and experience, but not particularly good.....meh!)
Agents of Shield

Accomplished fighter: (May have alot of experience but very little formal training.
Spiderman, Luke Cage, Beast

By the way who is Midnight Sun did he get reincarnated by the Kree to fight the surfer?


What the f**k?
Um Robin is nowheere near tier one I'd say he's second tier same with Red hood and Green arrow unless your talking about Conner Hawke.

Black Canary and Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) should both be tier 1 however

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What the f**k?
Um Robin is nowheere near tier one I'd say he's second tier same with Red hood and Green arrow unless your talking about Conner Hawke.

Black Canary and Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) should both be tier 1 however


hey im no DC expert but im quite sure Red Hood is top tier. What the f**k?


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hey im no DC expert but im quite sure Red Hood is top tier. What the f**k?


I agree with DL, Ollie is a good MA not a great one, in pure hand to hand he wouldn't be that high. Also with Red Hood, who is pretty much a less skilled more brutal Nightwing.

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