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Juntai
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What has Stick done to place him on his own level?


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thats mean literrally nothing. That does not make him wolverine or capt superior in combat. He was superior in every other way to these guys, but he was not as skilled which is shown in the fact wolverine was landing hits and giving gorgon quite a mess.

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also Ogun should be placed ion the uber tier. He is stick = in combat skills

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Originally posted by capt it up
thats mean literrally nothing. That does not make him wolverine or capt superior in combat. He was superior in every other way to these guys, but he was not as skilled which is shown in the fact wolverine was landing hits and giving gorgon quite a mess.


Only because Gorgon let him. He doesn't care about pain or damage to his own body. You know damned good and well that if he wanted to, he would have NEVER been hit by Wolverine or Elektra.


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also Ogun should be placed ion the uber tier. He is stick = in combat skills


Ogun never did anything impressive.


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Originally posted by capt it up
thats mean literrally nothing. That does not make him wolverine or capt superior in combat. He was superior in every other way to these guys, but he was not as skilled which is shown in the fact wolverine was landing hits and giving gorgon quite a mess.
I actually agree with Capt here. Gorgon was just superior in nearly every physical aspect, and didn't really feel damage, so he wasn't stunned by blows that would fell a normal man.

However, none of these speak of his actual martial arts skill. He was just a lot faster, stronger, etc.

However with what MA skill he had, mixed with his array of powers that were just too over the top for most street levelers, yeah, he was dangerous.


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I actually agree with Capt here. Gorgon was just superior in nearly every physical aspect, and didn't really feel damage, so he wasn't stunned by blows that would fell a normal man.

However, none of these speak of his actual martial arts skill. He was just a lot faster, stronger, etc.

However with what MA skill he had, mixed with his array of powers that were just too over the top for most street levelers, yeah, he was dangerous.


Yeah, he was superior in every physical aspect, but that doesn't take away his superiority in skill.

Also; Thanos should go in the Uber or Cosmic tier. He isn't a well known martial artist, but he trained gamora, and definitely deserves some recognition.


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I really don't see Gorgon as any different than Deathstroke in that he has a crutch for what MA skills he does have, in that he's simply more powerful than most other opponents, so he can overwhelm them.

In fact, Deathstroke's feats outdo his by a longshot as well.


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Only because Gorgon let him. He doesn't care about pain or damage to his own body. You know damned good and well that if he wanted to, he would have NEVER been hit by Wolverine or Elektra.

actaully thats not true. he was not lettign him self be hit. He was simply gettign hit he did nothing that puts him over wolverines level of skill.

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Ogun never did anything impressive.

really now? You mean like spanking wolevrine like he was a child. Becoming immortal from simply being so good at martial arts. Being superhuman in every area because of his martial arts knowledge and prowess, but naw he did nothing impressive.

Oh by the way stick has done absolutly nothing more impressive then Ogun.

stick and Ogun are pritty much the same character ecpt they excell in different weapons.

so I am sorry to tell you this, but stick is no more skilled then Ogun.

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Yeah? Post the scans, or get out. Stick > Ogun. Stick impressed me. Ogun was meh, at best.


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I really don't see Gorgon as any different than Deathstroke in that he has a crutch for what MA skills he does have, in that he's simply more powerful than most other opponents, so he can overwhelm them.

In fact, Deathstroke's feats outdo his by a longshot as well.

gorgon clearly more skilled the death stroke though the concept is the same

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Yeah? Post the scans, or get out. Stick > Ogun. Stick impressed me. Ogun was meh, at best.

to bad what you think does not mean fact.

prove stick superior if he is you should not have a problem doing so.


let see stick a meta human from martial arts....

Ogun a meta human from martial arts....

Stick cheated death becuase of martial arts....

Ogun cheated death from martial arts.....

Stick consider the greatest BO staff fighter to ever live......

Ogun consider the greatest Sword fighter to ever live....

Stick is very old

Ogun is over a 1000 years old....


yup pritty much the same character with the same abilities.

Oh by the way you remeber mister x........ya Ogun was rediculously more skilled then he was and mister X is a top tier MA.

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Originally posted by capt it up
gorgon clearly more skilled the death stroke though the concept is the same
I don't think so.

But yeah, the concept was what I was shooting for anyways.


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It really depends on whether consensus is that the teacher is still superior to the student or whether the student has surpassed them, with characters like Ogun, Stick, David Cain, O-Sensei etc.

I'm ambivalent on Gorgon.


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It really depends on whether consensus is that the teacher is still superior to the student or whether the student has surpassed them, with characters like Ogun, Stick, David Cain, O-Sensei etc.

I'm ambivalent on Gorgon.

very true

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And exactly which feats justify him as one of the greatest martial artists on the planet?


stalemating Wolverine in a contest of Skill....


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stalemating Wolverine in a contest of Skill....


Oh, boy. Now you've done it. Capt's gonna attack you with a barrage of half ways coherent ninja-babble.


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Oh, boy. Now you've done it. Capt's gonna attack you with a barrage of half ways coherent ninja-babble.

come on was there a need for that really.










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you can handle this one all by your self.

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I was gonna say "beat" but even i'm not that crazy stick out tongue


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