That is the best you can do.... so because others should be that means Tyrant should stay... wow great logic. So, please counter my points then.. nobody else can.. including Kris who I guess concedes
I myself am kinda torn in regards to Tyrant. I mean there are undoubtedly other characters with more impressive feats, but 9 times out of 10 they also have lower showings that balance them out. Tyrant doesn't really have those. All we have to go off of is his owning heralds, getting the better of Thanos, and taking on Galactus.
Kris do you also remember WHY galactus choose to result to that method because Tyrant just absorbs his blast and made him stronger. That clearly was expected by Galactus and thus he needed to try something else which also failed. He didn't just try that he tried other things which failed and thus he resorted to that which also failed. The fight was pretty one-sided and clearly Tyrant had the better of Galactus that is without doubt. Tyrant cut galactus as they exchange blows which made galactus yelp in pain... Galactus grabs some hair lol then blast Tyrant which hurt him yet also made him stronger and thus galactus was like wtf do I do my blasts are just making this enemy stronger. What is Galactus main weapon when fighting... blasting... So, you don't think that concerned him LOL LOL. He then tried the tactic your referring to and got further owned. I see no reason how Tyrant shouldn't be moved off the list considering who he beat and got the better of. Yes he has limited showings but his powerful is clear. Shoot by galactus own words and actions it's clear he was afraid of the confrontation and avoided it at first and then when he knew it was coming fed and prepped for the fight. Shoot SS own words were I must go there before they BOTH destroy eachother.. Seems he was also on the same page huh? You won't address any of these points just like before and will just say he doesn't deserve to be moved lol. Thanks
Technically Galactus's visible form isn't his actual form, it's just how lesser beings perceive him. So he wasn't actually cut, it was just how our minds interpret what really happened to him.
In the heat of battle you can forget all kinds of things. It's also entirely possible that he didn't actually forget about Tyrants powers but rather underestimated them. Galactus's relationship with his ship is very similar to Surfer's relationship with his board(to the point that Galactus recalled it during the Infinity war by yelling "To me my vessel") so for Tyrant to be able to override Galactus's control of his tech is quite a feat in and of itself.
But don't get me wrong because like I said I'm torn on the subject of whether or not he qualifies as a skyfather. Personally, I think he ought to be taken off the list just because there's not really enough to go off of. If we throw out Galactus due to PIS it means we're going off of two showings, and that doesn't really seem like enough to base his placement on.
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He should not logically be harmed by physical attacks. While they might cut into his form, they do not hurt him. You know this, I know this, some people have a hard time understanding it.
Galactus does not forget, he is Galactus
Cyborg Superman was able to manipulate the source wall. Technopathy feats evidently do not make much of a difference here. Doom was also able to use the technology there and Nova too could affect it. The Korvac which initially absorbed all the knowledge also had very, very basic powers, barely technopathy. It is not that impressive actually.
We throw out PIS showings, that is just how it is. But regardless, all the showing does is prove that Tyrant has technopathy, not that he is comparable to Galactus in power. We already know that Tyrant has technopathy.
I'm also seriously doubting the portrayals of Galactus there. Supposedly he cannot even combat this little fella without destroying the galaxies around them? Yet he can be defeated and almost killed by many other things which do not cause any kind of surrounding damage? Come on...
I doubt it was simply a physical attack if it was a weapon wielded by a former herald of Galactus. Surfer's board isn't metal, it hardened cosmic energy. So by the same token it would make sense for Tyrant's blade to be the same.
Was the Source wall actively fighting Cyborg's influence or Galactus actively fighting against the influence of Nova, Doom, or Korvak? It's the fact that he took control FROM Galactus that makes the feat so impressive.
Physically hitting Galactus shouldn't have any effect and it doesn't. In Stormbreaker BRB was able to affect what he perceived as Galactus, but it didn't actually do damage. Hurting Celestials is temporary....
How exactly is that PIS? It's not like he went to that right away first of all. Second, Kris please explain how Galactus using battles opponents... He blasts them correct? So, his main weapon was taken away from him and only made his worthy enemy stronger. That is when he decided to use his ship which also further caused him to get owned. So, how is that PIS? That is how galactus usually fights and you had tyrant fighting in character with his abilities.
Furthermore, could somebcdy can exlain how Galactus own words and actions don't speak towards him treating even a DP Tyrant as a worthy foe. He backed down from a fight when they originally meet over morg. Tyrant is ready to fight and Galactus wants no part of it. Galactus even says fighting Tyrant will cause a lot of collateral damage. He even makes sure he's well FED on a planet ripe with nutrients and even comments on how good he feels and hasn't felt like that in awhile. So, clearly he felt he need to be in tip top shape for the upcoming battle he knew was coming. Sounds pretty clear he was well aware he was fighting somebody powerful and worthy doesn't it?
How about SS own words.... I must go there because they are BOTH going to destroy eachother. Hmmm seems to suggest ss even knows how powerful Tyrant is and fears for Galactus.
How are you guys looking past those parts of the story which confirm what level Tyrant is at. Galactus doesn't due his usually dismissive arrogant self does he.... Hmmmm wonder why? Maybe because Tyrant was made in his image to be on par with him. Not quite but very close. Even in a DP state he is so far above just a normal herald its ludicris.
So, you can't just sit here and call PIS just because you don't like how the fight turned out. Both fought within their abilities and typical how they usually fight. The fight happened and he clearly had a Abstract level being on the ropes needing help. That along with getting the better of Thanos who also very clearly understands Tyrant power. Do you think he backs down and admits somebody could kill him if they coudln't? Don't think so and everybody knows it. He's a fellow trans member and some claim could be a skyfather. So, clearly he's above that level by thanos own words. Thanos fought another skyfather pre upgrade and never made the same comments or actions as he did with Tyrant. All this points to Tyrant being well above Trans level by on panel proof, words and actions of other characters
If you mind then dont, vote. I vote when needed, but tend to stay away from characters I know little to nothing about because I feel my vote would be uneducated.
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Jul 13th, 2009 09:56 PM
You can try and spin it all you want i dont see him being moved.
