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Galan007
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That said:
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Originally posted by Galan007
We can start discussing additional characters now. Max of 10, please.


{edit}
Just fyi, I removed Black Racer from the list entirely. He is a well-defined universal death abstract these days... Has no business in the trans tier.


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Philosophía
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Black Manta - high meta?
Dracula - high meta
Mera - high meta
Black Lightning - high meta
Killer Frost - low herald
Fantomex to - ??? smile


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Originally posted by Galan007
Oh, anyone can vote at any time -- it's totally open. The panel was mainly put together so that we for sure had multiple people who were willing to vote on all the characters proposed, instead of just hoping users would randomly pop-in and give their opinions here and there.

If there's ever characters that you(or anyone else) feel strongly about, please do weigh-in with your opinions. It is very much welcome. thumb up


Oh, okay. Good stuff. thumb up

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Originally posted by Galan007
That said:


{edit}
Just fyi, I removed Black Racer from the list entirely. He is a well-defined universal death abstract these days... Has no business in the trans tier.


Seems reasonable.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
Black Manta - high meta?
Dracula - high meta
Mera - high meta
Black Lightning - high meta
Killer Frost - low herald
Fantomex to - ??? smile


-Mera sounds good to me.
-Manta... I feel like he straddles the line purely because of how many times he's fought Aquaman in melee, but in terms of real "non-punchy" feats, he's not someone I feel I could really argue any higher than high-meta, so it sounds good to me.

So +1 for Mera, Manta and Lightning.


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Galan007
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Manta, Dracula, Mera, and Black Lightning for HM- agree.

Killer Frost for LH- probably a good starting point for her, but she's got a few showings that are above that, imo. Case in point:
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Fantomex- I'll defer here due to lack of knowledge. Feel like leo and DS would have some good thoughts on where he should go.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Manta, Dracula, Mera, and Black Lightning for HM- agree.

Killer Frost for LH- probably a good starting point for her, but she's got a few showings that are above that, imo. Case in point:
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Fantomex- I'll defer here due to lack of knowledge. Feel like leo and DS would have some good thoughts on where he should go.


Fantomex is a tough one because of his misdirection. He's used it against one of Apocalypse's ship and a reality warper. Apart from that I would think he's low-meta.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Manta, Dracula, Mera, and Black Lightning for HM- agree.

Killer Frost for LH- probably a good starting point for her, but she's got a few showings that are above that, imo. Case in point:
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Fantomex- I'll defer here due to lack of knowledge. Feel like leo and DS would have some good thoughts on where he should go.
Yep.

But I feel like that's in the amp category, so I didn't take into consideration.


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Bentley
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@Galan - Thanks for removing Black Racer

Black Manta - high meta
Dracula - high meta
Mera - high meta
Black Lightning - high meta
Killer Frost - low herald
Fantomex to - low meta (no EVA)


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Geo-Force - low herald?


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Fantomex to LM sounds okay to me.


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Originally posted by Bentley
Geo-Force - low herald?


I'd be down for that, sure. At least high meta if not.

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Galan007
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Originally posted by Bentley
Black Manta - high meta
Dracula - high meta
Mera - high meta
Black Lightning - high meta
Killer Frost - low herald
Fantomex to - low meta (no EVA)


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Geo-Force - low herald?
*Seemed like a clear consensus had been reached about these characters, so I added them to the list. I'd still like to see more opinions on Fantomex, but I put him at LM for now.

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I'd probably put Geo at HM, honestly. Here again, he's got a few showings where LH would be completely justified, but on average HM seems like a better fit to me.


**And we can move onto additional proposals as well.


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Philosophía
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Finally found it.

So, this:
https://imgur.com/a/FRQ3e

And this:
https://imgur.com/a/R3kPd
[I can't find the next scan, but I know for a fact that Kalibak is KO.]

Would be the ones that put him at LH, imo. I agree that on average he's not at that level, though - but he's very close, and he has some rather crazy abilities overall.

A few other proposals:
Clayface to mid-meta
Blanque [Superman-villain] to low-herald. I assume some of you aren't familiar with him, so I can post some scans if you like.
Cheetah to mid-herald
O.M.A.C. to mid-herald
The Weird to high-herald


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Galan007
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Phil
Finally found it.

So, this:
https://imgur.com/a/FRQ3e

And this:
https://imgur.com/a/R3kPd
[I can't find the next scan, but I know for a fact that Kalibak is KO.]

Would be the ones that put him at LH, imo. I agree that on average he's not at that level, though - but he's very close, and he has some rather crazy abilities overall.
The first one is Brion's most beastly showing ever... But it was also a one-off, very circumstantial powerup.

The Kalibak one is legit, though. He also has a few other good showings, like stalemating Achilles(who one-shotted Eradicator moments beforehand), and tanking Black Lightning's most powerful attack.

But yeah, as a character I personally think HM is the better fit.

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Originally posted by Phil
A few other proposals:
Clayface to mid-meta
Blanque [Superman-villain] to low-herald. I assume some of you aren't familiar with him, so I can post some scans if you like.
Cheetah to mid-herald
O.M.A.C. to mid-herald
The Weird to high-herald
Don't remember much about Blanque. Scans would be appreciated.


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High meta is tricky because of the one-trick poneys and the glass canons. Poor Wonderman kind of got screwed by being in the same tier as budget versions of his powerset.

I think you added Judge Dredd in the wrong Meta tier Galan.


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Galan couldn't help it; he's a huge fan.


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Philosophía
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Short version: TP/TK + physicals

1). Casually wtfpwns Kenan Kong [and also TP]
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2). Throws Supes [weakend, but still] around:
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3). Moves a mountain without effort:
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4). Casually controls the kryptonian armor:
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5). Explodes the entire Fortress of solitude, then psionically forces Kelex [advanced kryptonian tech] to send the signal that everything's fine:
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Casually controls Henshaw while in a place that inhibits his TP:
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6). Mind-links Zod/Eradicator [and the rest of the squad]
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7). Mind-links Zod/Eradicator -- trans-dimensionally [from the normal Universe all the way to the Phantom Zone], with effort
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He's a new charcter that has only two story arcs [and one was an ensemble of villains], so there's that, too.


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Philosophía
"The devil made me do it"

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Location: Void

It's ok to be blanque.


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Galan007
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I think you added Judge Dredd in the wrong Meta tier Galan.
Lol. Fixed. thumb up



@Phil
Judging by those scans, LH seems like a good fit for Blanque.


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