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quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq There is nothing objective or scientific about beginning with the conclusion that The Bible is a false description of the history of the world, and then selectively interpreting archaeological evidence to support this conclusion.
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queeq Chaos Gender: Unspecified
Poe's Copenhagen buddies do. They feel they have linguistic evidence to show the bible was written by a number of redactors they date to very late. So they have to make the archaeological record fit their model. Which goes basically with all scholars: they work from a model and tehre are a few models to work from. It takes a lot of work to make someone change his view on the model he's working from. It takes an open mind to considers te strong points of another model and the weak points of your own. And yet, I feel every scholar should do that. Most scholars I know, heard andread about, love the fact that new insights blur te question. They more you find out, the less you know, is a common credo, embraced by any serious scholar.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo So you're going to retreat under the comforting umbrella of secular humanist snipings?
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queeq Chaos Gender: Unspecified
Do you recommend it?
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leonheartmm Senior Member Gender: Female
no, but there are a lot of people parading about hating certain groups or ideologies for apparently valid intellectual reasons when infact they are full of crap and have no reasons. cockiness is a dead giveaway.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by leonheartmm did a secular humanist rape you ever?
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queeq Chaos Gender: Unspecified
Sounds like love is in the air.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by leonheartmm did a secular humanist rape you ever?
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chickenlover98 Loving Chickens Gender: Male
quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq Sounds like love is in the air.
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Adam_PoE Senior Member Gender: Male
quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq So what? A lot of scientists are asked to contribute. It's what's normal: you ask people from other fields to comment on your finds and conclusions. It doesn't automatically mean you agree with everything they say when you contribute. You just comment to what other people write: common practise in science. In fact. that's how it works: you publish, people respond (by request or not) and the debate goes on.
A mainstream scientist does not engage a marginal scientist, because doing so undermines his work and lends legitimacy to marginal views. Aidon Dodson is not simply critically responding to the work of others; he is contribution his own work. quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq There is nothing objective or scientific about beginning with the conclusion that The Bible is a false description of the history of the world, and then selectively interpreting archaeological evidence to support this conclusion.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo So you're going to retreat under the comforting umbrella of secular humanist snipings?
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Robtard Senor Member Gender: Unspecified
How can anyone take a scientist seriously, who's purpose is to scientifically prove [his/her own] faith?
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chickenlover98 Loving Chickens Gender: Male
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard How can anyone take a scientist seriously, who's purpose is to scientifically prove [his/her own] faith?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chickenlover98 hey where the **** were you? i missed your insights.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quark_666 Come to the philosophy forum.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard How can anyone take a scientist seriously, who's purpose is to scientifically prove [his/her own] faith?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King Who is retreating? I pointed out why the concern expressed over these guys is valid. Time and again their methods are condemned by their peers, who have no agenda. You posted an article claiming to proves scientist have an agenda, but it only talked about how the christian scientist was already using his education to further his agenda. Bad science is bad science, no matter what your motivation.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo You didn't read the article carefully enough.
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quote: The staff investigation has uncovered compelling evidence that Dr. Sternberg’s civil and constitutional rights were violated by Smithsonian officials. Moreover, the agency’s top officials—Secretary Lawrence Small and Deputy Secretary Sheila Burke—have shown themselves completely unwilling to rectify the wrongs that were done or even to genuinely investigate the wrongdoing. Most recently, Burke and Small have allowed NMNH officials to demote Dr. Sternberg to the position of Research Collaborator, despite past assurances from Burke that Dr. Sternberg was a “Research Associate in good standing” and would be given “full and fair consideration” for his request to renew his Research Associateship.
quote: Officials at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History created a hostile work environment intended to force Dr. Sternberg to resign his position as a Research Associate in violation of his free speech and civil rights.
quote: In emails exchanged during August and September 2004, NMNH officials revealed their intent to use their government jobs to discriminate against scientists based on their outside activities regarding evolution.
quote: NMNH officials conspired with a special interest group on government time and using government emails to publicly smear Dr. Sternberg; the group was also enlisted to monitor Sternberg’s outside activities in order to find a way to dismiss him.
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