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While I applaud the forward thinking of your Church (I do mean that), correct me if I'm wrong, won't those Jews, Gays and Atheist still burn in hell after death, since they're sinning or not abiding by God's laws in one or more ways according to the Bible?


No. Literally to sin is just miss the mark, that is hardly punishable by damnation. Only concious violation of morals with the intent of doing wrong could really be taken that way.

Also: Jews don't violate scripture, the idea that homosexuality is a sin requires basing one's entire faith on about three (rather vague) verses out of thousands, I've never been clear on what Atheism actually does that is wrong.

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I am unclear as to how a church is progressive because they "let in" the coloured and the fatties.


That was a joke, stupid. A reference to the insanity of some religious sects.

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I'm also unclear on how an actual atheist goes to a church just to tell the people in it how wrong they are.


Not every Atheist has such bigoted beliefs as yourself. Confrontation simply does not enter the equation.


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No. Literally to sin is just miss the mark, that is hardly punishable by damnation. Only concious violation of morals with the intent of doing wrong could really be taken that way.

Also: Jews don't violate scripture, the idea that homosexuality is a sin requires basing one's entire faith on about three (rather vague) verses out of thousands, I've never been clear on what Atheism actually does that is wrong.


I would assume not accepting Jesus and one's own personal savior. The whole bit about "the only way to God is through me". John 14:16, If I recall correctly.


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That was a joke, stupid. A reference to the insanity of some religious sects.


Yes, but the potential for insanity ends just outside the doors of your particular sect, right?


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Not every Atheist has such bigoted beliefs as yourself. Confrontation simply does not enter the equation.


You aren't really too clear on my religious beliefs. I'm not an atheist, so I can't really say I'm being an atheist bigot. As for confrontation, I totally believe that it does not enter the equation, as I doubt an actual atheist would waste his time by getting up on sunday morning, getting dressed and riding or driving to your church to listen to it's pastor and members debate a book a god, in which he does not believe, wrote. Perhaps there are people in your congregation that argue scripture, but if they got up and went to church, I doubt they're actual atheists. Maybe just agnostics.


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http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts...1.asp&wpp=a


What say you?
I say Spoon, and it is a Hyperlink posted by you. And the question is???

So you are saying that Atheist are as bad as Hitler, way to go there and show the love JIA. I cold draw a comic that is just as bad for you and make your belief look ridiculous and your point is?

The other point of the comic, do not believe what your parents are telling you and believe in the kids that tell you stuff for they know all the answers.


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I say Spoon, and it is a Hyperlink posted by you. And the question is???

So you are saying that Atheist are as bad as Hitler, way to go there and show the love JIA. I cold draw a comic that is just as bad for you and make your belief look ridiculous and your point is?

The other point of the comic, do not believe what your parents are telling you and believe in the kids that tell you stuff for they know all the answers.


Is the theory of evolution progressing towards fact or not or is the Biblical account for the origin of life Truth?

No, I am not saying anything.

Believe what your parents tell you if it is factual but not if it is untrue.


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Is the theory of evolution progressing towards fact or not or is the Biblical account for the origin of life Truth?


I don't think that's a real sentence.

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Believe what your parents tell you if it is factual but not if it is untrue.


Surely you see the flaw in that statement.


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http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts...1.asp&wpp=a


What say you?


Are you asking me? I say the same thing I always do in the face of your ignorant propoganda: that your authors have a very clear purpose and methodology. That purpose is to advance their own dillusion and that methodology is to ignore reality and supplant it with their own ignorance; again, to further their own security in their religious dillusion.


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No, I am not saying anything.


You rarely ever have.


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Is the theory of evolution progressing towards fact or not or is the Biblical account for the origin of life Truth?

No, I am not saying anything.

Believe what your parents tell you if it is factual but not if it is untrue.
Yes you are trying to say something each and every time you post. So how is a child supposed to tell that a parent is telling the truth? If the parent believes it to be true than it is the truth to them just as you believe there is a God this is true to you and not true to me and so how is a child supposed to tell the difference when adults can not?

The comic is a good one showing the rational between the two camps, where you think it is ludicrous to believe in evaluation and I believe the same about creationism.


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Yes you are trying to say something each and every time you post. So how is a child supposed to tell that a parent is telling the truth? If the parent believes it to be true than it is the truth to them just as you believe there is a God this is true to you and not true to me and so how is a child supposed to tell the difference when adults can not?

The comic is a good one showing the rational between the two camps, where you think it is ludicrous to believe in evaluation and I believe the same about creationism.


But, you didn't answer the first question that I posed.


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But, you didn't answer the first question that I posed.


Someone not answering one of your questions? It must be Karma. wink


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Yes you are trying to say something each and every time you post.


Exactly. And what he says over and over again is something his religion professes to be a mandate, i.e. preaching to others and convert them to a position where they are made to realize their very own existence is secondary to the intentions of their own god is central to their askewed notion of god. Preaching and demanding of others is the practically non-existenant line between christianity and islam and every other despised perspective of every adherent of every other organized religion.

People argue the morals and perspective and name and purpose, but they are too willingly stupid to realize that "I have no ****ing idea" is a valid perspective on a god that they've been told we can't understand actually has rules, limit, perspective or demands or purpose. But, they buy it up, in contributions, gifts, donations, guilt-rectifiers and pledges.

God=money, no god=money. So, the answer must be there, "in-between".


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But, you didn't answer the first question that I posed.
So?

Besides it not even a real question, how about you answer the myriad of questions that I have asked you and you ignored? "or is the Biblical account for the origin of life Truth?" this part makes no sense at all, and you keep wanting to think that the theory of evaluation is the answer to all which it never claims to be. It is a theory of the possible explanation of how life evolves from one species to another, it is supposed to be tested and proven until a BETTER explanation can be proven to be a better theory. By trying to disprove evaluation doesn’t prove ID, how about you try and prove ID first. I have never seen any science to try and prove ID only that you try and disprove all other theories thinking that this will prove yours which is complete and utter BS.


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1:the bible says so

2:the bible might not be true

1:but it was written by god

2:but you don't know that

1:but, it says so in the bible

2:you can't claim a book is true simply because the book says so

1:but, the bible is the word of god

2:how do you know?

1:it's says so in the bible

2:but you can't claim the bible to be proof of itself

1:but, it says so in the bible

2:but you can't claim the bible is proof of itself

1:but, god wrote the bible

2:you don't know that! you can't claim truth based soley on a piece of self-substantiating evidence.

1:but, the bible says god created everything

2:but where is the actual physical evidence, out in the world? why doesn't god talk to us anymore? don't you think it's more likely that he hasn't changed his mind, so much as he was never talking to us?

1:but, the bible says god created everything

2:PPROVE IT!

1:Bible verse 123


See, somewhere in his brain there is a disconnect when it comes to the bible. He can't comprehend that it can't serve to substantiate itself


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See, somewhere in his brain there is a disconnect when it comes to the bible. He can't comprehend that it can't serve to substantiate itself


It is called "brainwashing". He has too much invested in the belief that the bible is absolute truth.


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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts...1.asp&wpp=a


What say you?


That was hilarious, not only does Chick know next to nothing about Evolution theory, he claims to know something that can never and will never be proved as fact.



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That was hilarious, not only does Chick know next to nothing about Evolution theory, he claims to know something that can never and will never be proved as fact.



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I'm sure that monkeys would be upset to hear we evolved from them. laughing


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I'm sure that monkeys would be upset to hear we evolved from them. laughing
Monkeys have got it made big grin


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Monkeys have got it made big grin


Sure they do... they are still in the garden. wink


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