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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well Supes has mentioned himself on a few occasions of his"ancient warrior skills" and speed is speed....it's like walking or running in that isn't something exotic condition but rather a natural function of biology. That's why I always got confused with peeps banned the use of"speedblitz"...I mean it's like banning the ability to walk or run or something.


What do you mean ancient warrior skill?

Did I miss something? Lol, sorry I'm sleepy and not paying to much attention.

Are we referring to their fighting skill? Thor is an incredible warrior who has over numerous of centuries of experience and skill.

I understand you're point lol. Banning Clark from using his speed is quite silly to an extent in my opinion, it's just Clark as character doesn't use to much in a fight. It's part of his character now but mostly it's for dragging out fights.

Same goes for Thor not using the God Blast against every opponent he comes against.


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What do you mean ancient warrior skill?

Did I miss something? Lol, sorry I'm sleepy and not paying to much attention.

Are we referring to their fighting skill? Thor is an incredible warrior who has over numerous of centuries of experience and skill.

I understand you're point lol. Banning Clark from using his speed is quite silly to an extent in my opinion, it's just Clark as character doesn't use to much in a fight. It's part of his character now but mostly it's for dragging out fights.

Same goes for Thor not using the God Blast against every opponent he comes against.


His ancient kryptonian warrior skill that he says he learned, so technically he doesn't really brawl but yeah u get my point. Well the godblast to me seems something more of a plot device like T-VO or the godwave, supes speed is just more a neglected aspect ignored by the writiers...probably because they don't know what superspeed is suppsoed to mean. Anyhow I gotta head off to bed I'm starting to get a bit lazy and whatever, ciao.


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Under the right circumstances dude.

Thor was able to redirect and channel all the energy and power of the Null Bomb on the spot.

It would only take him a few seconds, to redirect and re channel not only the energy of the Sun itself but the energy that Superman has in his own Solar cells, amplify it with magic, and redirect it at Clark, which would be a fatal blow or at least a serious knock out.

That would be under the right circumstances.

This would take only a few seconds at the most, but with his speed, Superman could do something about it, but this isn't about who "would" win the fight, but about who "can" win the fight.


Umm Supes will be amped and he would 1 shot him instantly for KO or death.

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Umm Supes will be amped and he would 1 shot him instantly for KO or death.


I said Thor "can" win under the right circumstances, and not Thor "would" in a fight between the two.

That's what the thread creator asked for.

I would be debating your somewhat ignorant statement above but it's pointless, I'm late for bed and tired, and the thread creator simply asked for a list of beings who "could" win and not who "would" win.

Honestly, how hard is it to read....


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His ancient kryptonian warrior skill that he says he learned, so technically he doesn't really brawl but yeah u get my point. Well the godblast to me seems something more of a plot device like T-VO or the godwave, supes speed is just more a neglected aspect ignored by the writiers...probably because they don't know what superspeed is suppsoed to mean. Anyhow I gotta head off to bed I'm starting to get a bit lazy and whatever, ciao.


I get your point lol (Thor is still a better warrior but Clark is no slouch. He has been trained by Diana, Ted, Bruce etc.).

I could understand that, but I see it as I see speed for Superman to an extent. It's a viable tactic to an extent, but because they rarely use it, it's become part of their characters.

I could understand how it's more of a T-Vo plot device though. Good Point.

Well Good Night dude. I'm going to bed as well soon. Just need to finish typing up a report.


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Who can beat Superman inside the Sun's Core?!


My point.


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I said Thor "can" win under the right circumstances, and not Thor "would" in a fight between the two.

That's what the thread creator asked for.

I would be debating your somewhat ignorant statement but it's pointless, I'm late, and the thread creator simply asked for a list of beings who "could" win and not who "would" win.

Honestly, how hard is it to read....


Son, he can't win.

Ever.

That circumstance will never come into play. Understand?

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Did you read what the thread maker wrote?

How can that circumstance never come into play.

You apparently thought that Superman instantly knocking Thor out in "apparently" one blow, an opponent he knows nothing about can happen but you cannot accept what Thor can do?



Dude, Thor has shown that necessary, energy manipulation, so Thor "can" do it.

Will he do it, or would he have the chance is an entire different matter.

Christ....

Just because you cannot accept something doesn't make it invalid or illogical etc.


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Did you read what the thread maker wrote?

How can that circumstance never come into play.

You apparently thought that Superman instantly knocking Thor out in "apparently" one blow, an opponent he knows nothing about can happen but you cannot accept what Thor can do?



Dude, Thor has shown that necessary, energy manipulation, so Thor "can" do it.

Will he do it, or would he have the chance is an entire different matter.

Christ....

Just because you cannot accept something doesn't make it invalid or illogical etc.


I read the whole thread...

So Superman needs to know about Thor before hand before he flies over and starts wailing on his face?

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True, Clark doesn't know anything about Thor and what he can do, but Thor in turn does not know Clark's weaknesses and what powers him either.

Anyways, this still doesn't change the fact that, under the right circumstances Thor can win.

What's so hard to accept?

He can do it. Would he do it?

Not likely as he does not resort to such methods but it is beside the point.


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True, Clark doesn't know anything about Thor and what he can do, but Thor in turn does not know Clark's weaknesses and what powers him either.

Anyways, this still doesn't change the fact that, under the right circumstances Thor can win.

What's so hard to accept?

He can do it. Would he do it?

Not likely as he does not resort to such methods but it is beside the point.


Um, nothing to except. Seriously. It won't happen.

He would not, could not, in a box.
He could not, would not, with a fox.
He will not beat him with a mouse.
H will not beat him in a house.
He will not beat him here or there.
He will not beat him anywhere.
I do not like your bull shiit man.
I do not like it, Rage-my-man.

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Why can't it happen?

You have given me nothing besides the fact that you won't accept it.

Argh....

It's pointless debating with some people. Like trying to win an argument with a brick wall.


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Why can't it happen?

You have given me nothing besides the fact that you won't accept it.

Argh....

It's pointless debating with some people. Like trying to win an argument with a brick wall.


Wow, the sickness overflow'eth.

Thor cannot beat an amped Superman at the core of the sun. Really not a lot to explain.

Thor gets either:

A. Instantly KO'd
B. BFR
C. Death
D. Any combination of the above

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Thor is a good match for Superman in the Sun. Yeah are about the same if Magic, and Odin Force don't come into play. If they do, Thor got the advantage. In the sun however, that Advantage is smaller, and as time passed, the advantage is passed to Superman who gets stronger and stronger. In my opinion, I think Superman can defeat Thor after 10, or more minutes in the sun.


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Wow, the sickness overflow'eth.

Thor cannot beat an amped Superman at the core of the sun. Really not a lot to explain.

Thor gets either:

A. Instantly KO'd
B. BFR
C. Death
D. Any combination of the above


Why can he not under the right circumstances?

That list you wrote is great but pointless....

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Christ, some times arguing with people who don't even understand the simple concept of the thread is pointless.


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I'm contemplating moving this to the Superman forum, to be honest...

People need to realise that this thread isn't about who would beat Superman, it's about who can...

Who can is a longer list than who would, guys. Stay on topic, please.


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