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He's also a sock. You know it. I know it. He knows it.

Yep and a cretin.

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I love potatogratin

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For the same reason premeditated crimes are punished more severely than crimes of passion; motivation.

You misread what I said, but that's of little importance. The question becomes, "Why is hate as a motivator considered worse than some other form of motivation?"

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I think I shall try potato gratin.

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Delicious.

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I think I shall try potato gratin.

Aww, you are trying to be like me (or french)

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Loving the reminder to Starhawk, and all, under your sig Bardock.

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Aww, you are trying to be like me (or french)

Maybe I can be the French you? confused

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And so it begins

The new liberal congress is already chipping away our freedom in the name of "equality".

This is a f*cking joke

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Maybe I can be the French you?

I am not sure if society is ready yet. But...well....give it the damn best try you got, kid.

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And so it begins

The new liberal congress is already chipping away our freedom in the name of "equality".

This is a f*cking joke

Though, to be fair, the old Republican congress already chipped away your freedoms in the name of security

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You misread what I said, but that's of little importance. The question becomes, "Why is hate as a motivator considered worse than some other form of motivation?"

For the same reason premeditated crime is considered worse than a crime of passion.

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For the same reason premeditated crime is considered worse than a crime of passion.

That doesn't answer the question.

A crime of passion is more acceptable than premeditation because it is done on emotional impulse that overrides cognitive abilities. Premeditation has no such "excuse."

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For the same reason premeditated crime is considered worse than a crime of passion.

I think he meant why is the motivation of hate considered worse, than the motivation of money? For example.

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That doesn't answer the question.

A crime of passion is more acceptable than premeditation because it is done on emotional impulse that overrides cognitive abilities. Premeditation has no such "excuse."

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I think he meant why is the motivation of hate considered worse, than the motivation of money? For example.

When it enacted the Hate Crimes Act of 2000, the New York State Legislature included legislative findings that offer a survey of the various arguments for hate crime legislation. The legislature specifically found that:

Hate crimes do more than threaten the safety and welfare of all citizens. They inflict on victims incalculable physical and emotional damage and tear at the very fabric of free society. Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs. Hate crimes can and do intimidate and disrupt entire communities and vitiate the civility that is essential to healthy democratic processes. In a democratic society, citizens cannot be required to approve of the beliefs and practices of others, but must never commit criminal acts on account of them. Current law does not adequately recognize the harm to public order and individual safety that hate crimes cause. Therefore, our laws must be strengthened to provide clear recognition of the gravity of hate crimes and the compelling importance of preventing their recurrence. Accordingly, the legislature finds and declares that hate crimes should be prosecuted and punished with appropriate severity.

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Fair enough.

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And so it begins

The new liberal congress is already chipping away our freedom in the name of "equality".

This is a f*cking joke

I was just thinking the same thing.Who else would decide on this new law?jm smile

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lol k goodnight for now.schecter Happy Dance

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I was just thinking the same thing.Who else would decide on this new law?jm

The law is not new; it has been in effect for 39 years. The legislation that is the subject of this thread seeks to expand the law to protect gender and sexual orientation.

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That doesn't answer the question.

A crime of passion is more acceptable than premeditation because it is done on emotional impulse that overrides cognitive abilities. Premeditation has no such "excuse."

How Red State of you.

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194 hours... ScanWatch '07 continues.

Is that FOX News on purpose? Or just by coincidence?

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