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Is PSP better than DS hardware wise?

Recently, I was looking at the latest Gundam Seed game in action(Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T.)for PSP and was rather impressed. Granted I'm not that familiar with either system but I don't recall seeing any DS games looking that good.

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Yeah.

It always have been. That's its major downfall in my opinion.

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PSP is much better graphically. Much more powerful and such.


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By 'hardware wise' I assume you mean sheer horsepower.

Because some might say that the DS' use of hardware is better, and how else can you describe the second screen except as hardware as well?

The DS basically proved to the world that processing power alone does not a good product make, simply by showing up the PSP. If Nintendo manage to make it two for two with the Wii as well then it may well cause a sizeable shift in the way the gaming industray works- for the last decade it's all been about screaming for more power.


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By 'hardware wise' I assume you mean sheer horsepower.

Because some might say that the DS' use of hardware is better, and how else can you describe the second screen except as hardware as well?

The DS basically proved to the world that processing power alone does not a good product make, simply by showing up the PSP. If Nintendo manage to make it two for two with the Wii as well then it may well cause a sizeable shift in the way the gaming industray works- for the last decade it's all been about screaming for more power.


I want a DS, unfortunutly there is only like 5 games for it that I want.

Metroid
New Mario
Mario Kart
Zelda
Mario 64

Unlike the PSP, which has about 10-15 games that I like:

Metal gear ops
Metal gear acid 1 & 2
Gta vice
Gta liberty
socom 1 & 2
Killzone
syphon filter
god of war TBD
medal of honor
call of suty


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Re: Is PSP better than DS hardware wise?

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Recently, I was looking at the latest Gundam Seed game in action(Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T.)for PSP and was rather impressed. Granted I'm not that familiar with either system but I don't recall seeing any DS games looking that good.


In terms of sheer graphical and processing power yes the PSP hardware is better then the DS hardware. But while the DS lacks in one aspect of the hardware it makes up for with another in the touch screen. Like the Wii, the DS's hardware is new and interesting and innovative, rather then just the same thing but with more power. So take your pick really.. go with Nintendo who is going with new interesting ways of playing, or the other guys who are just interested in crunching CPU numbers.


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PSP's own but their expensive and are quite easy to break but DS's suffer from nintendo's three greatest issues 1.Poor Graphics 2.Lack of games 3.Bad idea's that somehow get popular (Brain Training anyone?)


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PSP is no doubt better than DS hardware wise; software is another matter. The graphics are a generation ahead IMO, PSP looks as good as PS2, while DS still looks like N64 to me. The downloadable PS1 games, expandable memory, LocationFree Player & UMD movies are a nice touch. Actually pretty amazing what they were able to squeeze into the little machine. Now if only they could make it cheaper and the battery last longer. DS is leaps and bounds ahead in software though. What good are great looking titles if there are only a handful of good ones...

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The DS has poor graphics and a lack of good games?

News to me.


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PSP is no doubt better than DS hardware wise; software is another matter. The graphics are a generation ahead IMO, PSP looks as good as PS2, while DS still looks like N64 to me. The downloadable PS1 games, expandable memory, LocationFree Player & UMD movies are a nice touch. Actually pretty amazing what they were able to squeeze into the little machine. Now if only they could make it cheaper and the battery last longer. DS is leaps and bounds ahead in software though. What good are great looking titles if there are only a handful of good ones...


Its only $40 more than the DS dude. I could spend that at a Rockies game without trying


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Seeing how the PsP is a broken design, considering no second analog stick, I have to give this to the DS. This however is like picking two piles of shit. One pile doesnt smell so bad and plays only children games with poor retro graphics, the other pile smells of horribly wasted potential while utilizing an incredible screen to view your shit through. PsP produces only shit games that smell worse than the system itself, but atleast look good while smelling like shit


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The DS has poor graphics and a lack of good games?

News to me.


Compared to the PSP the graphics are not nearly as good, but I completely disagree that it doesn't have any good games... New Super mario bros, mario kart, mario 64 ds, metroid, Yoshi's island, spiderman etc.


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Its only $40 more than the DS dude. I could spend that at a Rockies game without trying


lol can't argue that the extra $40 is definately worth it, but I guess I really meant that both the DS and PSP are too expensive, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. $50 on top of the price of the PS2 to get it portable is reasonable. If only it game with PS2's game library...

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I think thats the problem of the PSP.

It's not the design but the software library. It consists of way too much console ports and not enough original games, and considering most of the ports are completely unaware that handheld gaming is different than console.

How many times do I have read in EGM saying that the game sucks because of the lack of control stick. That's because the developers never thought of trying something different.

Look at the DS, developers are using the dual screen and the touch screen to its original purpose. Thats why its selling like nuts.

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Indeed so. The DS is just a much better design concept. Nintedo have got it right from the ground up.

The PSP is exactly what it says it is- a portable Playstation. That's not actually that useful. Nintendo never tried to make the DS a portable Gamecube. It CAN kinda act in that way, but it's not the main object, hence horsepower not being the priority.

DS is annihilating the competition because of this.


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I dont mind if the PSP had all those graphics if the developers and Sony actually used them to thier advantage and created original games.

Why the hell do I want to play GTA3 and GTA Vice City again on an small screen.

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Indeed so. The DS is just a much better design concept. Nintedo have got it right from the ground up.

The PSP is exactly what it says it is- a portable Playstation. That's not actually that useful. Nintendo never tried to make the DS a portable Gamecube. It CAN kinda act in that way, but it's not the main object, hence horsepower not being the priority.

DS is annihilating the competition because of this.


Considering that Playstation 2 is the most sucessful console ever released, you can't knock them for thinking that a portable version would have worked just as well. It just didn't turn out that way and I don't think it's Sony's fault, it's more the developers who like someone said don't realize that a portable system is different. It some cases the console-like games have worked though, like Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, the highest rated game for PSP.

And I don't know if DS is annihilating the competition, true it's almost doubling the sales of the PSP, but when you think that before the PSP, there was NO competition in the handheld market since Nintendo has always had a monopoly with handhelds, I think Sony should be proud of the 33% market share they have.

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Considering that Playstation 2 is the most sucessful console ever released, you can't knock them for thinking that a portable version would have worked just as well. It just didn't turn out that way and I don't think it's Sony's fault, it's more the developers who like someone said don't realize that a portable system is different. It some cases the console-like games have worked though, like Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, the highest rated game for PSP.

And I don't know if DS is annihilating the competition, true it's almost doubling the sales of the PSP, but when you think that before the PSP, there was NO competition in the handheld market since Nintendo has always had a monopoly with handhelds, I think Sony should be proud of the 33% market share they have.


Hardware it might 'only' be doubling. Software wise, the difference is astonishing. Meanwhile, Sony have cancelled UMD as a failed product. It's not gone well.

Anyway, you say it's not Sony's fault- well, if Nintendo had the vision, so could Sony have done. They got it wrong and they've paid.


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UMD hasn't been "cancelled" in any respect. UMD movies have been reduced by other studios, but Sony Pictures continues to support the format. Just because something isn't seen outside Sony products, doesn't make it a failure. It's still doing what it was intended to do for the PSP, the movie aspect just didn't catch on.

Since the only good games for Nintendo systems usually come from Nintendo themselves, they don't have to rely on other developers to make crappy ports like they do for PSP. While Sony has strong first party developers, games like Gran Turismo and Shadow of Colossus, don't translate to portable nearly as well as games like Mario. The only thing you can fault Sony with is not developing agressively enough in-house for the PSP, but that'll change with God of War: Chains of Olympus.

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For me Handheld have always been about basic gaming when I'm away from my consoles or PC.

Never understood why the big deal with better graphics and more power pack into a small gaming device. Last year I was considering getting either a PSP or a DS Lite. When all of the sudden the DS Lite exploded in the high demand market. The games for the DS look so much more fun than the PSP.

I really don't care what games or mediocre movies the PSP may have. It's just not appealing to me. I was glad to get a DS lite and my only regret is losing it. I'll get another in due time.


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