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atharpina
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i dont know why people are even considering it a possibilty that harry's the one coming back. not only did he obviously die and get buried, but it's also clear that theres still a symbiote hanging around in doctor connor's lab.

for spiderman 4 im seeing the lizard and carnage/possibly second venom as villains

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Brock blew up..we see his skeleton..he is gone or Spiderman 4 wont make sense unless they come up with some great reason


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Brock blew up..we see his skeleton..he is gone or Spiderman 4 wont make sense unless they come up with some great reason



Or Brock Sr.Like I said before, they can make it seem like Brock Sr. is the actual Venom, I mean, they never had Brock Jr. dubb himself as Venom.If they do it with Sr. they can work out all the stuff that people didnt like about this movie Venom.

EXAMPLES:
1:His speech, Brock Jr. still reffered to himself as I when he had the symbiote.Brock Sr. could use the traditional Venom speech and refer to himself as "we".
2:His build.Brock Sr. could be bulkier and give a more accurate representation of the comic Venom.
3:His screentime.Brock Sr. could get ALOT more screentime as the new Venom.
4:The tongue.Give the tongue a second chance will ya?!!?
5:And his namelessness.Brock Sr. can finnally come out and say the magic words."We are Venom!"


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Err. Eddie brock Senior IS dead... if we are referring to ultimate line. so is petes dad. The people responsible for the suit Killed them.


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for 4 i would say lizard and venom.



in 5 just have venom ( no one else)



in spidey 6. they should end it with spidey teaming with the f4 and storm and capt america versus team doom from the spidey toon.


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Err. Eddie brock Senior IS dead... if we are referring to ultimate line. so is petes dad. The people responsible for the suit Killed them.


We arent reffering to the Ultimate Line.We are talking about a possible use of Eddie Sr. for Spidey 4.They havent said anything about him being dead.I would prefer they bring Topher back, but a Brock Sr. is better than nothing....or better than Gargan!


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Brock is dead, the symbiote is goo and the only peace of it left is too small to make another Venom. Besides why should Venom get to be in another movie when the other villains were in just one? Lizard is the most logical choice for Spider-Man 4.

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Brock is dead, the symbiote is goo and the only peace of it left is too small to make another Venom. Besides why should Venom get to be in another movie when the other villains were in just one? Lizard is the most logical choice for Spider-Man 4.


The symbiote can obviously expand.I mean, it was really small when it first came to earth in the movie, yet it somehow was able to cover Parker's whole body.Talks are of Lizard being Spiderman 4, but having a Venom cliffhanger at the end.


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I think we're forgetting one thing. The only reason Venom has spiderman like abilities is cause the symbiote takes on the traits of its former hosts. Am i right so far? Now unless the sample that Connors has comes into contact with Peter (again) it wouldnt necassarily be Venom would it?

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There is always the chance that something remained after the explosion.Perhaps not Brock, but nobody can deny that their is probably some symbiote laying around somewhere.


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Im not sure but isn't the symbiot able to regenerate a person and whats to say the symbiot didn't attach to the skeleton ( with little fragments of brock on it ) and regenerated him.

I say if there is no body there is no death atleast not in movies/comics

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Im not sure but isn't the symbiot able to regenerate a person and whats to say the symbiot didn't attach to the skeleton ( with little fragments of brock on it ) and regenerated him.

I say if there is no body there is no death atleast not in movies/comics


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for some reason i believe venom will be back with Eddie Brock Jr. remember we are in a new age where DNA comes in handy. maybe the parrt of the symbote can regenerate brock with a strand of DNA??? I mean cmon look at that Pokeman the 1st movie (LOL) but seriously, its possible but we will see brock and venom come back in the end. setting up spider 5 venom and carnage


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for some reason i believe venom will be back with Eddie Brock Jr. remember we are in a new age where DNA comes in handy. maybe the parrt of the symbote can regenerate brock with a strand of DNA??? I mean cmon look at that Pokeman the 1st movie (LOL) but seriously, its possible but we will see brock and venom come back in the end. setting up spider 5 venom and carnage


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Originally posted by dxnwo1
for some reason i believe venom will be back with Eddie Brock Jr. remember we are in a new age where DNA comes in handy. maybe the parrt of the symbote can regenerate brock with a strand of DNA??? I mean cmon look at that Pokeman the 1st movie (LOL) but seriously, its possible but we will see brock and venom come back in the end. setting up spider 5 venom and carnage


This would be the way that I prefer it to happen.But I have no arguements against Brock Sr. either.Bringing Jr. back would be the move I would make. Happy Dance Happy Dance Happy Dance <-------------Thats me if they bring him back as Jr.


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I would think it is the best possible scenario, not there is others, but if Sam Ramina would want to re/co direct Spiderman 4, this could be the best answer to make sense why Spiderman's greatest Enemy came back to defeat a more piowerfull enemy, also known as Carnage. This should help eveyone have the 4th be Involved with The Lizard, which by the looks from 2 years from now, and maybe the introcuction of the Hib-Goblin. that he will be the main villain. Weird huh? Professor (Lizard) kicks student's (Spidey/Parker) ass legaly??? fun huh.
well this may conclude that MJ and Peter may either get married for the 4th or SPlit up for good, which if bryce dallas howard could loose that post pregnancy weight, which i doubt and get replaced by another your actress, Gwen Stacy might be woth Spidey. ANyways like I said before, I am currently writing a SPider-man part 4 and take it to sony studios (not kidding) and maybe write the movie for the 4th. well we'll see, in the mean time..... RIP Harry / Larry / Ozzy / Norman Osborne which will never come back.


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I would think it is the best possible scenario, not there is others, but if Sam Ramina would want to re/co direct Spiderman 4, this could be the best answer to make sense why Spiderman's greatest Enemy came back to defeat a more piowerfull enemy, also known as Carnage. This should help eveyone have the 4th be Involved with The Lizard, which by the looks from 2 years from now, and maybe the introcuction of the Hib-Goblin. that he will be the main villain. Weird huh? Professor (Lizard) kicks student's (Spidey/Parker) ass legaly??? fun huh.
well this may conclude that MJ and Peter may either get married for the 4th or SPlit up for good, which if bryce dallas howard could loose that post pregnancy weight, which i doubt and get replaced by another your actress, Gwen Stacy might be woth Spidey. ANyways like I said before, I am currently writing a SPider-man part 4 and take it to sony studios (not kidding) and maybe write the movie for the 4th. well we'll see, in the mean time..... RIP Harry / Larry / Ozzy / Norman Osborne which will never come back.

Um... why would the green goblin come back to help spiderman with carnage? confused


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Venom, Lizard and Mystique are in the 4th S. Perhaps Carnage too, hehehe, oh man looks like the 4th will have 4 villains.


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Aranich i was reffering to Venom. smile


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I actually kind of like the idea of bringing back Venom as Brock Jr... here is how I see it...

(For the 5th movie) The symbiote regenerates Brock and expands (that may sound generic, but I'm still thinking as to how it could do this) until Brock is 100% again. But his rejuvinated hatred for Spider-Man makes him power hungry. The symbiote continues to expand until the symbiote grows, and Brock appears to be bulky and muscular while attached to it. He is very grateful to the symbiote, and he feels that he owes everything to it. The symbiote "tells" him that "We are one." Brock constantly thinks "We are one" until it becomes habit, and he is fully attached to the symbiote. He hunts down Parker, and brutalizes him. He tells him "We will finally destroy you! We will finally be rid of you! We are the venom that will kill you! Hey, we like that! We are Venom!" Parker escapes, and Venom plays mind games with him, appearing as Brock to psyche him out. (Think Spider-Man: The Animated Series)

That's all I have so far, it's really just a bare bones idea, but it has enough explaination to keep it in continuity AND please comic fans
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