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Originally posted by Bat Dude
I actually kind of like the idea of bringing back Venom as Brock Jr... here is how I see it...

(For the 5th movie) The symbiote regenerates Brock and expands (that may sound generic, but I'm still thinking as to how it could do this) until Brock is 100% again. But his rejuvinated hatred for Spider-Man makes him power hungry. The symbiote continues to expand until the symbiote grows, and Brock appears to be bulky and muscular while attached to it. He is very grateful to the symbiote, and he feels that he owes everything to it. The symbiote "tells" him that "We are one." Brock constantly thinks "We are one" until it becomes habit, and he is fully attached to the symbiote. He hunts down Parker, and brutalizes him. He tells him "We will finally destroy you! We will finally be rid of you! We are the venom that will kill you! Hey, we like that! We are Venom!" Parker escapes, and Venom plays mind games with him, appearing as Brock to psyche him out. (Think Spider-Man: The Animated Series)

That's all I have so far, it's really just a bare bones idea, but it has enough explaination to keep it in continuity AND please comic fans
(I think)



I actually like your idea ALOT!...This would be the coolest way for them to do it.In the end though, I definately want to see Venom and Spidey team up to take on Carnage, but that too can have its own movie, The fourth should just be lizard with a Venom Cliffhanger, The fifth should just be about Venom, and the 6th should be Venom and Spiderman vs Carnage!!!Awesome!!!!!But the chances of them following this is unlikely.I really dont see any other serious villainsthey could use after Lizard or Hobgoblin(But the goblins have been overused already.).They should keep the symbiote thing going because they are Spidermans greatest foes.


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i also liked the idea.


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For all we know, they could retcon it so the symbiote slingshot Eddie and part of itself through the pipes as the explosion was going off and the skeleton ended up being just a coincidently shaped splatter of goo.

About the bulkiness... it looks cool on paper but in real life it'll just look like Venom's fat. I'm serious. The movies can't be exactly like comics or they would suck.

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There is always the chance that something remained after the explosion.Perhaps not Brock, but nobody can deny that their is probably some symbiote laying around somewhere.

Did you watch Spider-man 3? There was symbiote all over the construction site holding up the taxi and the dump truck.


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Venom will be back for the 4th. All's I gatta say.

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For all we know, they could retcon it so the symbiote slingshot Eddie and part of itself through the pipes as the explosion was going off and the skeleton ended up being just a coincidently shaped splatter of goo.

About the bulkiness... it looks cool on paper but in real life it'll just look like Venom's fat. I'm serious. The movies can't be exactly like comics or they would suck.


Did you watch Spider-man 3? There was symbiote all over the construction site holding up the taxi and the dump truck.


This is true....


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are you sure that webbing was symbiote? i mean it wasn't moving or anything. if they were planning on that being their excuse for resurrecting Venom id think theyd be more clear about it being alive.

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It's might of been my prior comic knowledge tainting it, but I thought it sounded gooey when Eddie was swinging around and it was all black. He also seemed to be very aware of the taxi slipping but that could of just been his enhanced senses or... just looking back at the sound. I don't know what else it would be other than symbiote though.

Also, was it just me or was there a flash of tongue when Sandman grabbed Venom?


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I think it was just you, we can see the tongue, but he never sticks it out in the movie.Its just like a normal tongue.


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Originally posted by Bat Dude
I actually kind of like the idea of bringing back Venom as Brock Jr... here is how I see it...

(For the 5th movie) The symbiote regenerates Brock and expands (that may sound generic, but I'm still thinking as to how it could do this) until Brock is 100% again. But his rejuvinated hatred for Spider-Man makes him power hungry. The symbiote continues to expand until the symbiote grows, and Brock appears to be bulky and muscular while attached to it. He is very grateful to the symbiote, and he feels that he owes everything to it. The symbiote "tells" him that "We are one." Brock constantly thinks "We are one" until it becomes habit, and he is fully attached to the symbiote. He hunts down Parker, and brutalizes him. He tells him "We will finally destroy you! We will finally be rid of you! We are the venom that will kill you! Hey, we like that! We are Venom!" Parker escapes, and Venom plays mind games with him, appearing as Brock to psyche him out. (Think Spider-Man: The Animated Series)

That's all I have so far, it's really just a bare bones idea, but it has enough explaination to keep it in continuity AND please comic fans
(I think)


I have to say that I like this idea, too. This idea should be for Spiderman 4 instead of Spiderman 5, though. I think the main villain should be Carnage. Although Venom would taunt and beat up Spiderman in the first hour of Spiderman 4, they would realize that a bigger threat to the city, Carnage, has surfaced. This would cause Venom and Spiderman to form a temporary partnership to defeat him. After working together to defeat Carnage, Peter Parker and Eddie Brock settle their differences and become friends, similar to the Ultimate universe. A storyline similar to this would be awesome.

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I have to say that I like this idea, too. This idea should be for Spiderman 4 instead of Spiderman 5, though. I think the main villain should be Carnage. Although Venom would taunt and beat up Spiderman in the first hour of Spiderman 4, they would realize that a bigger threat to the city, Carnage, has surfaced. This would cause Venom and Spiderman to form a temporary partnership to defeat him. After working together to defeat Carnage, Peter Parker and Eddie Brock settle their differences and become friends, similar to the Ultimate universe. A storyline similar to this would be awesome.



Doing this would cause Venom to become a side kick character.I dont want Spiderman to have a sidekick in these movies.Perhaps they could make peace and Venom goes off somewhere never to return.But if they executed Venom coming back, he would probably die in a battle against Carnage.


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Doing this would cause Venom to become a side kick character.I dont want Spiderman to have a sidekick in these movies.Perhaps they could make peace and Venom goes off somewhere never to return.But if they executed Venom coming back, he would probably die in a battle against Carnage.


If Venom helps Spiderman fight Carnage, then they would be PARTNERS. Venom wouldn't be his sidekick. Also, Venom doesn't have to die in a battle with Carnage. The most that can happen should be that Eddie Brock would be seriously wounded and taken to the hospital to recover after the big battle. There at the hospital, Eddie Brock and Peter Parker would develop a truce and become aquaintances, not friends. As long Venom doesn't die in the movie, it's all good.

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One thing I don't want to happen is have Venom becone a side kick character... Leave him evil, he's kooler that way... The only way I'd let Spidey and Venom work together to fight Carnage is if Venom dies in the battle, or if Venom leaves, never to be seen again, with Peter paranoid of a possible return (though it wouldn't happen)...


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Why is it that the only way in which you all want Venom to work with Spiderman would be if Venom dies afterward. Venom couldn't just leave after battling Carnage because Eddie Brock has a life there. Do you all think that Eddie Brock would just move to another city? I hope not. The only way that Eddie Brock would leave the place, in my opinion, is if he falls back in love with Gwen Stacy or with some other woman and decides to move to another city with her. Eddie Brock would, probably, have to leave the symbiote behind somehow so that trouble wouldn't follow him. He doesn't have to if he has full control of the symbiote. As long as Venom and Spiderman have to team up to defeat an enemy like Carnage, I'll be happy.


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Why is it that the only way in which you all want Venom to work with Spiderman would be if Venom dies afterward. Venom couldn't just leave after battling Carnage because Eddie Brock has a life there. Do you all think that Eddie Brock would just move to another city? I hope not. The only way that Eddie Brock would leave the place, in my opinion, is if he falls back in love with Gwen Stacy or with some other woman and decides to move to another city with her. Eddie Brock would, probably, have to leave the symbiote behind somehow so that trouble wouldn't follow him. He doesn't have to if he has full control of the symbiote. As long as Venom and Spiderman have to team up to defeat an enemy like Carnage, I'll be happy.



Like I said above, I would much rather Venom survive the battle with Carnage.But I wouldnt want him to be buddy buddy with Spiderman in the end.Let him leave, giving Parker a warning that next time they meet they will be once again enemies.


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Like I said above, I would much rather Venom survive the battle with Carnage.But I wouldnt want him to be buddy buddy with Spiderman in the end.Let him leave, giving Parker a warning that next time they meet they will be once again enemies.


I guess that would work. Venom could leave the city as long as there is a good reason for him leaving. Maybe Eddie Brock can fall in love with someone and move away with her, or something. I don't know. I just hope that Venom lives through the whole movie.

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I'm fine as long as they bring him back and give him more justice than they did in 3.


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bring back venom so i can have my dream of symbiote warfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hell, I'd love to see Venom & Spider-Man go up against Carnage. It'd be interesting to see Sam pull that off.


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