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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I don't understand how SM's "speed blitz"/ "FTL" movement/acrobatics/agility/reaction Allow him to "punch a hole in Storm's face before she can think/react".
While at the same time allowing ROUGE to touch him?
And Magneto to "control" the iron in his blood?
Apoc and X-Man are alright.
But if Maggs and Rouge got a shot Storm is DEFINITELY in the building.
Superman has never in his career biltz anyone at light speed because he cannot... You will never ever see a scan, bio or narration suggesting he can do it.. But on KMC he will be given this false ability without any proof whatsoever.. So i cannot name any mutants that can beat him because his many defenders will try and use his false speed blitz as a auto-win..Thus a debate can never take place because false info with no proof will be accepted by his supporters which donimates this place.
Dec 24th, 2010 05:12 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Hitman911
You have to be kidding me right!?!?!??!?!?!?
Who on that list wouldn't beat supes?
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Dec 24th, 2010 05:54 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by MONSTAR
Superman has never in his career biltz anyone at light speed because he cannot... You will never ever see a scan, bio or narration suggesting he can do it.. But on KMC he will be given this false ability without any proof whatsoever.. So i cannot name any mutants that can beat him because his many defenders will try and use his false speed blitz as a auto-win..Thus a debate can never take place because false info with no proof will be accepted by his supporters which donimates this place.
I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.
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Dec 24th, 2010 05:56 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.
I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight
Dec 24th, 2010 07:59 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight
What scan is this? Professor zoom?
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:06 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
What scan is this? Professor zoom?
No, check the last 2 pages out. I finally got a scanner so Ill be putting more
Dec 24th, 2010 08:09 AM
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quote: Originally posted by carver9
I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.
quote: Originally posted by paisapower
I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight.
Last edited by dmills on Dec 24th, 2010 at 08:32 AM
Dec 24th, 2010 08:25 AM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
No, check the last 2 pages out. I finally got a scanner so Ill be putting more
I looked... I didn't see anything showing light speed let alone half the speed of light. What feats are you talking about? Tagging flash like characters?
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:25 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I looked... I didn't see anything showing light speed let alone half the speed of light. What feats are you talking about? Tagging flash like characters?
Go to the superman respect board and start with the last page working your way back
Dec 24th, 2010 08:28 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
Go to the superman respect board and start with the last page working your way back
That's where I looked, its not there. You have one scan of him fixing a ship... another one where he is moving around while the jla are fighting and saying that jay didn't even see him. Jay isn't a light speedster... he lost that ability a long time ago. He is barely breaking the sound barrier.
You have supes catching up to a blast that we have not type of indication on how fast it is going.
I didn't see anything. Tagging the flash? Everyone in dc has done this. Do you truly know what fighting at light speed mean? That means that you are moving your limbs "while in combat" at 186000 miles per second. Do you have those types of feats? Not him flying to catch a ray... him actually fighting at tremendous speeds ala flash.
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:42 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
That's where I looked, its not there. You have one scan of him fixing a ship... another one where he is moving around while the jla are fighting and saying that jay didn't even see him. Jay isn't a light speedster... he lost that ability a long time ago. He is barely breaking the sound barrier.
You have supes catching up to a blast that we have not type of indication on how fast it is going.
I didn't see anything. Tagging the flash? Everyone in dc has done this. Do you truly know what fighting at light speed mean? That means that you are moving your limbs "while in combat" at 186000 miles per second. Do you have those types of feats? Not him flying to catch a ray... him actually fighting at tremendous speeds ala flash.
You have got to be kidding me, your saying that none of these feats give u any indication of how fast he can move and thus blitz ?[IMG]http://(please log in to view the image) [/IMG]
Dec 24th, 2010 08:49 AM
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Combat speed doesn't equal travel speed. Show us a quantifiable scan of Supes blitzing some speedster and then we'll talk.
Dec 24th, 2010 08:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
You have got to be kidding me, your saying that none of these feats give u any indication of how fast he can move and thus blitz ?[IMG]http://(please log in to view the image) [/IMG]
Superman is fast enough to hit a flash and zoom... I'm not doubting that. Green lantern has also tagged zoom, wonder woman, deathstroke has the best track record against any flash. The list goes on but even though these people have the ability to hit a cis flash and zoom (who has proven that they can move far faster than supes since he was a statue during one of their fights) does not hold any type of weight that he can fight at light speed.
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:56 AM
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:57 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
Combat speed doesn't equal travel speed. Show us a quantifiable scan of Supes blitzing some speedster and then we'll talk.
So if a guy can run near light and was actually shown swimming in the page right before the one I scanned and still keeping up with a running flash, you cant see him punching and kicking with the same effort
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Dec 24th, 2010 08:58 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Superman is fast enough to hit a flash and zoom... I'm not doubting that. Green lantern has also tagged zoom, wonder woman, deathstroke has the best track record against any flash. The list goes on but even though these people have the ability to hit a cis flash and zoom (who has proven that they can move far faster than supes since he was a statue during one of their fights) does not hold any type of weight that he can fight at light speed.
Hes running at light speed right in this scan and its still not to your liking,
Dec 24th, 2010 09:02 AM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
So if a guy can run near light and was actually shown swimming in the page right before the one I scanned and still keeping up with a running flash, you cant see him punching and kicking with the same effert
Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?
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Dec 24th, 2010 09:02 AM
paisapower
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?
186,000 mps is right there
Dec 24th, 2010 09:05 AM
paisapower
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?
Now I see why the scans I posted in the respect thread werent good enough for u, you just looked at the pics but didnt read the text
Dec 24th, 2010 09:11 AM
dmills
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by paisapower
Now I see why the scans I posted in the respect thread werent good enough for u, you just looked at the pics but didnt read the text
Dec 24th, 2010 01:51 PM
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