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Jedireaper
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While other greats have had a re-imaging (Eg. Rocky Balboa, Rambo IV, Die Hard: 4.0, Star Trek (2009) and even Batman) Indy IV seems to be a step back in the series, with Steven Spielberg seeming to lose his eye catching sense of direction with IV becoming a more Lucas esque failure.

I think that, although it was nice to see Harrison cracking Indy's whip once more, and the film is a pleasent, fun, and if not irrevocably nostalgic addition to a film 'trilogy' (now quadrilogy) that I thought ended a year or so before I was born. the acting sells the film as does John Williams' score.

I didn't find any satisfaction from the film and found that GL and SS have given us their first joint bad movie. So I say it is time to pull out all the stops or stop altogether.

What ya's think?


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Or they get their act together and redefine action cinema again, as they did in the past. They have the money and capabilities.


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My point exactly. smile


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Well, they better do that then.


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Or they get their act together and redefine action cinema again, as they did in the past. They have the money and capabilities.


What so they chose to make a "lacklustre-at-best" movie as a creative exercise this time round...?

If they possessed the capabilities to not be lame they should have used them in this movie, imo.


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I don't think they chose to make it lacklustre... maybe they felt it was a walk in the park... I dunno... It just isn't the best card in the deck...


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the sad thing is they already ARE planning to make another triology despite the fact that Indy fans did not take to this one. mad


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How can fans not be responding to this movie when it's made so much money?


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Hehehe... good one.

Well, maybe they do want to make a good Indy film again...


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I am afraid they get confused... the movie will make money because it's Indiana Jones, not because it's good. Same problem that Star Wars had: it's the name that generates money here.

Best solution is to kick George Lucas away from the project: MUCH less CGI, MUCH less crap story... in short: pre-1990's Lucas!


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yeah this latest Indiana Jones movie made as much as money as it did cause of the name alone.yeah that is a good solution.Thats what people dont get about The Star Wars prequals,they always bring up that lame argument that if they were so bad then why did they make so much money.well thats because of the name alone.No way would those movies have done what they did box office if it werent for the greatness of the original star wars trilogy.


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I agree.


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Okay, that makes sense. But if a movie makes money in its first weekend, yeah. It's due to hype and big names and all that jazz. But for a movie to do well weekend after weekend like Indiana Jones and the Star Wars prequels did, I would think someone somewhere would think they were really good.

When you say "good," you're really just comparing it to the original movies, which are great. Compared to them, the newer movies really aren't that good. But as stand-alones movies that are part of a series, they're not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be...just Star Wars Episode One...which never happened. wink


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I still feel they could have named this movie "National Treasure 3: Going International". Ok, a couple of jokes wouldn't have worked but there was not much difference between the two for me.

And to answer about weekend and weekends of money gains: I've seen the movie and had an invitation to go see it with two other groups... for free (I mean: they pay my ticket). I could have gone of course: 2 free hours of cinema but I didn't go because it's just so lousy.
Ok, it's a weak explanation and it does not cover everything: but sometimes people see it again just to hang around with others, not because it's good. And in this instance: there was no other movie appealing enough to go and see besides Indy IV. And of course you have some nuts that think it was the best movie (or some that say it wasn't that bad) so they indeed see it multiple times. But everywhere I hear of people that saw it, the tenure is that it was bad... not just "not good" but bad...


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Okay, that makes sense. But if a movie makes money in its first weekend, yeah. It's due to hype and big names and all that jazz. But for a movie to do well weekend after weekend like Indiana Jones and the Star Wars prequels did, I would think someone somewhere would think they were really good.

When you say "good," you're really just comparing it to the original movies, which are great. Compared to them, the newer movies really aren't that good. But as stand-alones movies that are part of a series, they're not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be...just Star Wars Episode One...which never happened. wink


you got to remember that there are millions out there who will go back time and time again just to see a movie with a lot of great special effects and cant see past that to see how horribly written they are.movies such as the star wars prequals,spiderman,and batman 89 would not have been the huge blockbusters at the theaters that they were without being so extremely popular like they are.We'll never know if thats the case with Indiana Jones since Ford is a huge box office draw.I guarantee millions of familys around the country only went back time and time again cause theres millions of spoiled kids in this country who get their way.

I know that cause I used to always talk about how much I hated the movies I mentioned with a passion when they first came out to my neighbors,co workers,every person I came in touch with,and with familys it was the same story everytiime,they only went back to the theaters to see those films many times cause their kids wanted them to take them.not cause they wanted to.So it would be absurd to say that didnt go on around the country.

Now that point would work with a movie like Titanic,Lord Of The Rings or Harry Potter-I never had heard of Harry Potter before that film came out,but it doesnt work for those other films I mentioned or Indy 4.


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I still feel they could have named this movie "National Treasure 3: Going International". Ok, a couple of jokes wouldn't have worked but there was not much difference between the two for me.

And to answer about weekend and weekends of money gains: I've seen the movie and had an invitation to go see it with two other groups... for free (I mean: they pay my ticket). I could have gone of course: 2 free hours of cinema but I didn't go because it's just so lousy.
Ok, it's a weak explanation and it does not cover everything: but sometimes people see it again just to hang around with others, not because it's good. And in this instance: there was no other movie appealing enough to go and see besides Indy IV. And of course you have some nuts that think it was the best movie (or some that say it wasn't that bad) so they indeed see it multiple times. But everywhere I hear of people that saw it, the tenure is that it was bad... not just "not good" but bad...


thats also a good point.


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Well.. bad. ... Disappointing...yes.


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The whole movie washes over me intellect like a massive wave of "bummer".

It drowns the collective audience's IQ in it. stick out tongue


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Painful indeed.


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they will make more lucas wanted to make five

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