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General_Iroh
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Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Lol, it's been said a million times that anytime a symbiote reproduces, it produces a stronger symbiote, at least stronger than the parent.

Btw, who do you guys think would win in a fight between Eddie Brock & Cletus Cassidy (without the suits, just them as regular humans)?

Untrue, Eddie Brock without the symbiote was giving his spawn a good fight.
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Dude, while what your saying is true, those fights where full of PIS. Venom isn't really on Carnages level.

PIS?


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Untrue, Eddie Brock without the symbiote was giving his spawn a good fight.

PIS?

Plot introduced stupidity. They make someone stronger or do something out of character for the sake of the plot. They just don't wan't venom to loose everytime. If there was no such thing as plot introduced stupidity, Spiderman would be dead by now.

Another good example of plot introduced stupidity is Wolverine vs Sabretooth. Sabretooth is stronger, faster, more instinctive, has the adamantium skeleton, a healing factor, and claws. He outclasses Wolverine in all categories except smarts but wolverine doesn'thave much smarts either besides street smarts. Sabretooth should be winning 8-9/10 of his fights with Wolverine but PIS and Wolverines abnormally big jobber aura always gets in the way.

Its the same with any Venom vs Carnage fight excpt carnage should be winning 10/10 of those fights.


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Plot introduced stupidity. They make someone stronger or do something out of character for the sake of the plot. They just don't wan't venom to loose everytime. If there was no such thing as plot introduced stupidity, Spiderman would be dead by now.

Another good example of plot introduced stupidity is Wolverine vs Sabretooth. Sabretooth is stronger, faster, more instinctive, has the adamantium skeleton, a healing factor, and claws. He outclasses Wolverine in all categories except smarts but wolverine doesn'thave much smarts either besides street smarts. Sabretooth should be winning 8-9/10 of his fights with Wolverine but PIS and Wolverines abnormally big jobber aura always gets in the way.

Its the same with any Venom vs Carnage fight excpt carnage should be winning 10/10 of those fights.

Well Carnage is obviously more powerful but he's never proved to be that powerful compared to Venom, Carnage would sometimes win but it was usually a fairly even fight with Carnage just having the edge, it's always shown them like that so I doubt it's always been PIS.


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Carnage is stronger than Venom.End of discussion, Venom may have defeated him a few times, but the stronger of the two is very very obvious.Venom ussually has to team up with Spiderman to beat Carnage.

I just got done watching some of Spiderman unlimited.I couldnt make it through the first 9 and a half minutes.They introduced Venom and Carnage in the first episode!?And they work together!??!Carnage looked utterly retarded as well.

This new show sounds promising.Of course Venom and Carnage will be a part of it, but from the poster it looks like the vulture is taking the first major villain spotlight which is good.Thats pretty much teh way it was done in the comics.I mean, Chameleon did come first, but he wasnt very major if you ask me.


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no I don't think so...he just kills people. In one issue of spidey Venom said "Your reign of terror is over!" and Carnage replied. "Rain?" So yeah he's pretty dumb.


He was probably being sarcastic when he said that.He is a very sarcastic guy

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Yeah, he's sarcastic most of the time but Brock is still smarter.


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He was probably being sarcastic when he said that.He is a very sarcastic guy


I doubt Carnage was being sarcastic. He just isn't smart, compared to Venom.


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Well Carnage is obviously more powerful but he's never proved to be that powerful compared to Venom, Carnage would sometimes win but it was usually a fairly even fight with Carnage just having the edge, it's always shown them like that so I doubt it's always been PIS.


But it has. It's the truth.


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The fact of the matter is Venom is not stronger than Carnage. You can be the biggest Venom fan out there but that doesn't mean he's stronger than Carnage because he isn't.


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no I don't think so...he just kills people. In one issue of spidey Venom said "Your reign of terror is over!" and Carnage replied. "Rain?" So yeah he's pretty dumb.


I remember that, its hard to tell if he was being sarcastic or dumb cause he replied "rain?, we're talking hail baby!!!" then shot out spikes at spidey and venom.

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Trust me, he was being dumb...


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Trust me, he was being dumb...


Dude. From the way he was saying that stuff ssj_naruko typed up, that seemed to be a figure of speech. He wasn't being stupid. Carnage isn't as stupid as your making him out to be. I'm not really sure how smart Venom is, but since he was a high class photographer and strategist, its pretty obvious he is smarter that your everyday hack and slash serial killer.

Carnage isn't as smart as Venom, but carnage isn't retarded. Venom isn't as smart as your making him out to be too. He's just smarter than carnage. Your overestimating one character and underestimating another. Venom has waaaay more brawns that brain.


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Venom is still smarter than Carnage, though...


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Venom is still smarter than Carnage, though...


Ya. In a strait out fight between casady and brock, Brock would win. Without the symbiote, its the other way around.


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Without the symbiote, Cletus wouldn't stand a chance against Brock.


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Your sure about that? wink

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Yeah. As long as it's just a fist fight, then Eddie would beat the crap out of Cletus.


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Well brains can be better then muscles lol

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Eddie Brock has both brains and brawn.


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It's mostly brawn. Brock is smart but he's not a genius.


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