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I forget, so who did we decide wins this fight?

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thanos most def. darkseid is fooled by batman on the fly. batman just thought something up on the go. while thanos would literally destroy ds with prep.


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thanos most def. darkseid is fooled by batman on the fly. batman just thought something up on the go. while thanos would literally destroy ds with prep.


can you elaborate?

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can you elaborate?
ill give examples. i have elaborated this for over twenty pages. but ill give u an example.

In the story genesis. Darskeid is after the power of the godwave. He is focused on getting it. Ares the god of war snags it right out from under darkseid. Thus darkseid was beaten to the punch if you will. In the batman superman story arc you had batman show up on apokolips. He used what means he had at the time to barter his way off apokolips with supergril. Darkseid wasnt rsisking the destruction of his planet over this. Darkseid knows that batman will do whatever is necessary to get the job done. After this they set darkseid up to attack them as superman paraded supergirl across the country. He was easily fooled and thought he killed supergirl. It seemed like darkseid was made to look like a fool twice in one story. Gotta hand it to him.


We all know how successful thanos has been throughout his history.

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ill give examples. i have elaborated this for over twenty pages. but ill give u an example.

In the story genesis. Darskeid is after the power of the godwave. He is focused on getting it. Ares the god of war snags it right out from under darkseid. Thus darkseid was beaten to the punch if you will. In the batman superman story arc you had batman show up on apokolips. He used what means he had at the time to barter his way off apokolips with supergril. Darkseid wasnt rsisking the destruction of his planet over this. Darkseid knows that batman will do whatever is necessary to get the job done. After this they set darkseid up to attack them as superman paraded supergirl across the country. He was easily fooled and thought he killed supergirl. It seemed like darkseid was made to look like a fool twice in one story. Gotta hand it to him.


We all know how successful thanos has been throughout his history.


good point yes

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good point yes
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Thanos still dominates. With prep its just murder. Murder most foul.


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Thanos wins in prep against Darkseid.


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I just read some of my older posts in this thread, and holy shit I used to make semi-long posts...

Anyway, Thanos wins...


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Originally posted by quanchi112
ill give examples. i have elaborated this for over twenty pages. but ill give u an example.

In the story genesis. Darskeid is after the power of the godwave. He is focused on getting it. Ares the god of war snags it right out from under darkseid. Thus darkseid was beaten to the punch if you will. In the batman superman story arc you had batman show up on apokolips. He used what means he had at the time to barter his way off apokolips with supergril. Darkseid wasnt rsisking the destruction of his planet over this. Darkseid knows that batman will do whatever is necessary to get the job done. After this they set darkseid up to attack them as superman paraded supergirl across the country. He was easily fooled and thought he killed supergirl. It seemed like darkseid was made to look like a fool twice in one story. Gotta hand it to him.


We all know how successful thanos has been throughout his history.


Ha! You're actually serious. What is Thanos' most impressive prep feat? Don't say Hotu or IG. The guardians were, for the most part dopes and got punked one by one, not to mention many of them were clueless, it came down to Thanos having some idea about gems and then punking the lot of them one-on-one. HOTU was about finding the artifact not impressive. As for Ares, Darkseid came out the better there and he used prep.


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thanos in a stomp with prep


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thanos in a stomp with prep


Could you elaborate on his best prep feat?


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Ha! You're actually serious. What is Thanos' most impressive prep feat? Don't say Hotu or IG. The guardians were, for the most part dopes and got punked one by one, not to mention many of them were clueless, it came down to Thanos having some idea about gems and then punking the lot of them one-on-one. HOTU was about finding the artifact not impressive. As for Ares, Darkseid came out the better there and he used prep.
Again,the ig,the cosmic cube,his defeating the Magus all rings a bell.

Yes,Ares used prep and made darkseid look second-rate. Thanos makes those who also prep for something second rate. Example Doom and the heart. Thanos got it while Doom came up short. The point is Thanos succeeds while Darkseid fails...again.......and...again.


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Ha! You're actually serious. What is Thanos' most impressive prep feat? Don't say Hotu or IG. The guardians were, for the most part dopes and got punked one by one, not to mention many of them were clueless, it came down to Thanos having some idea about gems and then punking the lot of them one-on-one. HOTU was about finding the artifact not impressive. As for Ares, Darkseid came out the better there and he used prep.
The Grandmaster alone is a worthy feat. Plus he had to outsmart most of the Guardians on the fly.

Apparently I made a post that addresses some of Thanos's feats:

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OK, this is getting dumb.
Now, while I don't agree with quanchi... a lot, Thanos is an extremely good prep man.

I mean, because Mephisto jobs (in battles no less), then his intelligence is bad? Ya, no. Mephisto knows the cosmic ebb of things, he knows what goes on, he knows a lot of things. While he might lose [most of his losses, have been said, because he wants souls (which was clearly explained when he wanted Surfer's), and destroy the body, lose the soul], his losses, should theoretically have nothing to do with his intelligence.
If Reed Richards lost a lot, would that have any effect on his great mind?
Mephisto is a mastermind as well, and is a master schemer.

Also, a street leveler took him out, because the street leveler used the most advanced race on Earth's weapons, and prepped for him.

Mephisto was depowered there, and as far as I know, when you get depowered, it isn't your same power, which by the way, would have nothing to do with jobbing.

Thanos told him, and made a deal with Mephisto. Thanos held true to his deal, but even then, Mephisto still came up short, since Thanos knew he was going to use a loophole in this deal, and the Lord of Lies never saw this coming.
A bad showing for Mephisto? Hardly. A high showing for Thanos? Hardly.

Also, about Galactus. Thanos with the gauntlet cloned him, and used his DNA to make the long story short, so I don't have to go through it.
Now, what you're saying is that Galactus doesn't have DNA, which might hold some merit.
The thing is though, that Tyrant has sliced Galactus's face open before, and Galactus bled.
Unless blood isn't DNA, then...

Also, another explanation, could be, that the energy residing inside Galactus, is what Thanos used. Maybe not DNA, but partly a piece of Galactus.
Also, it might have been through the IG that Thanos got this DNA, but it was through his mind that he created this being of might that dwarfed Galactus.

Now, let's go through some other stuff for Thanos's mind, will we?

Well, his own massive powers is through his mind.
His armada was through his mind.
Him creating a basic gun that could trap Thor with the PG was through his mind.
Him creating a weapon that in one shot, can take out Thor, Iron Man, and Mar-Vell was through his mind.
Him knowing the passage between life and death is through his mind.
Him being able to freely transport to the realm of abstracts (Eternity, etc) was through his mind.
Him having Dexter's lab in his basement is through his mind.
Plus, he's gotten the love of an abstract.
Etc, it's a long list.

Now, about this crap theory about him stumbling onto super powers, and that's only how he does things, well...
The Cosmic Cube, for instance, was accomplished through research.
He found out info about it, and he took action. Then demolished Drax.

The IG, was from his researching about them. Hell, he found out how they were made, and he also had to undertake some tasks.

The HOTU, do you believe that he just stumbled upon the power by accident? No, instead he manipulated a bunch of cosmics (with massive insight), into seeing if his theory was right or not (since there was no indication that the HOTU actually exists, and all his computers, and stuff tried to discount this), and then absorbed the power (and through will, even though his body was being disintegrated, managed to take in the massive energy, and it also seems that Thanos made himself a more powerful body).
Also, let's not forget a little thing about the HOTU saga, maybe the most important thing, Thanos still retains all the knowledge of the events, and remembers the things that happened...

Plus, Thanos researches... a lot! It's no fluke that he comes up with powers enough to destroy the universe.

Now, I'm not saying that Thanos wins or not, but some of this stuff is getting ridiculous.


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Again,the ig,the cosmic cube,his defeating the Magus all rings a bell.

Yes,Ares used prep and made darkseid look second-rate. Thanos makes those who also prep for something second rate. Example Doom and the heart. Thanos got it while Doom came up short. The point is Thanos succeeds while Darkseid fails...again.......and...again.


Predictable. Those are not great prep feats, acquiring artifacts from places, clueless or otherwise unprepared people doesn't count. Darkseid prepped and trapped Ares in that same story line with his tech, Ares was outmaneuvered there. As for Doom he was going after the same thing and Thanos merely got there first, there wasn't some intellectual hurdle he failed to pass, the same thing with Darkseid and Ares.


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Could you elaborate on his best prep feat?

off the top of my head,how about defeating/stopping a multiversal threat the hunger who was interdimesional parasitic entity or defeating the grandmaster at his own game.

besides theres shit loads of evidance provided by other posters here


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Predictable. Those are not great prep feats, acquiring artifacts from places, clueless or otherwise unprepared people doesn't count. Darkseid prepped and trapped Ares in that same story line with his tech, Ares was outmaneuvered there. As for Doom he was going after the same thing and Thanos merely got there first, there wasn't some intellectual hurdle he failed to pass, the same thing with Darkseid and Ares.
Grandmaster was prepared and so was the Runner. Doom also prepped to gain the heart but fell short.

Darkseid along with massive support stopped Ares. Ares became the big threat not Darkseid. See,Darkseid isnt what Thanos is. Darkseid is a lot like the he-man villain skeletor. He always loses at the end of the story no matter how clever he is. The good guys always stop him.

Thanos in terms of prep>>>Darkseid. It isnt even close.


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The Grandmaster alone is a worthy feat. Plus he had to outsmart most of the Guardians on the fly.

Apparently I made a post that addresses some of Thanos's feats:


No one said its a fluke but its a one phase process and the idea that ultimate power is lying in artifacts that are within reach is to put it mildly, convenient.

He doesn't have to play a grand game of intrigue or risk or even intellect to acquire these artifacts. Further what process does he use to acquire knowledge of these artifacts? we don't get much elaboration so the plots just turn out to be shallow. With the IG most of the guardians were disappointing.

With Darkseid there's much greater exposition. He manipulates situations by taking calculated risks, he is playing for ultimate power and naturally puts himself at ultimate risk, death itself. The manner with which Thanos acquires his artifacts is extremely (for lack of a better word) cheap by comparison.


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No one said its a fluke but its a one phase process and the idea that ultimate power is lying in artifacts that are within reach is to put it mildly, convenient.

He doesn't have to play a grand game of intrigue or risk or even intellect to acquire these artifacts. Further what process does he use to acquire knowledge of these artifacts? we don't get much elaboration so the plots just turn out to be shallow. With the IG most of the guardians were disappointing.

With Darkseid there's much greater exposition. He manipulates situations by taking calculated risks, he is playing for ultimate power and naturally puts himself at ultimate risk, death itself. The manner with which Thanos acquires his artifacts is extremely (for lack of a better word) cheap by comparison.
Thanos had to locate and defeat each elder to gain each and every gem. Thats impressive. Darkseid takes risks and loses. He is that gambler we all feel bad for because sooner or later he loses everything.


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