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I understand that what makes a person a person is not their evolutionary status (for everything in life evolves) nor our soul (for that is yet to be proven) but our character. The very principle that defines us as people is that we are: civilized, educated, refined components. In short that we ourselves are gods. The ability to determine what/who lives or dies, we pride ourselves in forcing the world to our dominion and rule for no other reason than that we are people. You would never have the inclination to describe 3rd world inhabitants as people. Because if they were people too, then we would have no justification for what we do. For that would hint at the whole notion that we may be wrong. And that is a fallacy. So what makes us people? What makes you and I a person? The very notion that we are the greatest tragedy to walk the earth. That we live in the constant misconception that man is unable to live with nature. That our stewardship must become imperialism. That our coexistence becomes dominance. That from birth we are taught the inexhaustible and emotionless earth lays at our disposal so we may do as we please. A tree gives without hesitation and an animal dies without protest. And we consume with neither remorse nor appreciation. If this is not a crime against mother nature and God the father than I assure you nothing is.

But what proves any of that true if you are speaking primarly about soul and evolutionary status being false?

You are stating a belief, yes. But how so? Who else is on earth if it is only people and living things? Do you loath yourself?

Yes I see where you are coming from. Basically the world has gone to a whole new low, but that should not cause yourself into hating your own race. Because you are who you are and that is it. Humans are not made into this earth into destruction, nor any motives of imperialism and what not. Humans are in this world for many other reasons. Plus, I think it is very ironic for one human to hate his own species.

Bottom Line....People make mistakes, but it seems that you don't really have that in your head yet.

As a catholic, I believe God created us with flaws for a reason and that is for us to learn from mistakes and use our tools (Actions) wisely. wink

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AOR wins the debate.

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AOR wins the debate.

Who said you were ending anything besides yourself?

Not trying to sound negative.

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I elected to end your boring conversations. What's the point in this debate? You aren't going to convince each other.

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I elected to end your boring conversations. What's the point in this debate? You aren't going to convince each other.

Then let us two solve our differences instead of just leaving it with no friendly conclusion.

And I didn't even know I was debating...

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Is this debate about how people can hate people? Because let me tell you, I hate a LOT of people right now.

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I elected to end your boring conversations. What's the point in this debate? You aren't going to convince each other.

Thank you for point out how mind-numbingly boring that was.

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Then let us two solve our differences instead of just leaving it with no friendly conclusion.

And I didn't even know I was debating...

Discussing due difference of opinion, explaining why your opinion is the more accurate opinion (from your point of view), is debating..

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Super Marie 64
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you both are

But Thomas is my #1 hottie

Is he now? Now how in the world could I suspect that?

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I hope you are not calling me a hottie cause i worked hard to look like a nerd

Happy to inform you that you sure do

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Is this debate about how people can hate people? Because let me tell you, I hate a LOT of people right now.

Hate leads to..... you know! Do not hate

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But what proves any of that true if you are speaking primarly about soul and evolutionary status being false?

You are stating a belief, yes. But how so? Who else is on earth if it is only people and living things? Do you loath yourself?

Yes I see where you are coming from. Basically the world has gone to a whole new low, but that should not cause yourself into hating your own race. Because you are who you are and that is it. Humans are not made into this earth into destruction, nor any motives of imperialism and what not. Humans are in this world for many other reasons. Plus, I think it is very ironic for one human to hate his own species.

Bottom Line....People make mistakes, but it seems that you don't really have that in your head yet.

As a catholic, I believe God created us with flaws for a reason and that is for us to learn from mistakes and use our tools (Actions) wisely.

I hate mankind

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Well, mankind was built with flaws. If the whole world was perfect.........Well that is just an impossible dream.

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Super Marie 64
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I wish I could be an animal instead

They at least do not wish to destroy eachother

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I wish I could be an animal instead

They at least do not wish to destroy eachother

Ever heard of cannibalism? Predators?

Yes, they do hurt each other so much. Nuff.

And in my opinion, humanity will never unite. Yet, I wont hate myself. You need to live with in....Period.

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Super Marie 64
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The natural beast mind do not kill for pleasure or the future. They kill for survival and that is way different than what the mankind does

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The natural beast mind do not kill for pleasure or the future. They kill for survival and that is way different than what the mankind does

So do humans. Back then during the times of cavemen, they have hunted as well. To this day, we eat to survive. Are you a member of PETA?

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Super Marie 64
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You are saying that the majority of the deaths of humans by human hands is for personal and/or pack survival?

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JacopeX
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You were not specific then.

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Super Marie 64
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It was what I meant.

Sure we were just like animals back when we lived in caves and had little wooden clubs to hunt with.

Mankind has lost its roots

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Eventually everything becomes distant from it's original roots.. it's just progress is all.

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Super Marie 64
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Everything?

Who else have lost their roots?

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It was what I meant.

Sure we were just like animals back when we lived in caves and had little wooden clubs to hunt with.

Mankind has lost its roots

What roots did we lose? We still stick to our basic roots such as hunting, learning, making, etc.

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