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I think that they replayed the same scenes, (the ones when Snape broke into Harry's mind) at least every 10 minutes.this movie is the worst of the 5 bc-
1.THey shut out the whole beginning, and so Harry seemed disturbed
2. The fight scene was pathetic.
3.I wanted to see the chracters taken down 1 by 1 like the book.
4. Grimmould place looked like crap. It was supposed to be a mansion, and it looked like crud
5. They put in scenes that never happened
6. In the Voldy/Dumbledore fight, they cut out the statues coming to life.
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They really meant it when they said it was the best movie of the summer.
I went to see it for the 4th time yesterday!
My mom HATES Harry Potter, but she absolutely loved the movie. Especially the battle scene. Total Awesomeness!
I just adore that movie!
My mouth was literally hanging at the end of the movie!
Agreed. Book 5 was probably my least favourite but I could see that being easily made into a film adaption. Especially the Dumbledore vs Voldemort scene. I thought that the movie was pretty poor.
I think it was better than the fourth movie. I actually think that it was the best movie out of all of them so far, even though it didn't follow the book as much as the other movies.
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I liked the movie overall. There were a few scenes I thought should have been in the movie, though, that would have made it better.
The whole Percy leaving his family for the Ministry was left out, which means him coming back in movie 7 will be non-existent also.
They never showed Snape in Grimmauld Place working for the Order, so we never get that confidence in him that he's Dumbledore's man, so his "betrayal" in the next book isn't going to be as emotional.
Finally, I would have loved to seen McGonagall and Umbridge argue over Harry's future as an Auror. That would have been entertaining.
Oh, and a minor gripe about the last fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort. In the book, Dumbledore seemed more calm and in control of things. We now know why because of the last book. In the movie, he seemed very nervous about the outcome. But that's just a small complaint.
Wow, you bring up some really good points! All of those things really would've been great if they were in the movie, especially the part about the McGonagall-Umbridge argument.
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From the sounds of it some people are just too picky, quite frankly it was my favourite film by far and I absolutely loved it, the directing was superb and if some of you knew how hard it was to take a book like that to screen, I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining as much. I thought it was absolutely superb.
Well, I'm not sure when anyone was supposed to have a heated argument. I felt the actors did a fine job. Daniel Radcliffe especially seems to have improved. When Sirius died my heart ached for Harry, his pain was so realistic.
Give an example, please. What key plot details? The only key plot detail that should have been in the film was the locket, and I think that is going to be taken care of in the next film.
Grimmauld place is NOT a mansion; it's not ever, to my knowledge, described as a mansion. And it's supposed to look like shit. All the surrounding houses look awful, and in the book Grimmauld place is not exactly home sweet home. It's filthy and gross and scary. It was perfect in the film.
What else did you feel was utterly wrong? Give an example of poor directing.
At last we agree.
The scenes did jump, but I don't think it was as confusing as you imply. It's not that difficult to assume certain things take place off-screen. Why would we need every single detail put into the film; you already stated that too much uninteresting stuff happened, but you want more exposition?
The deeper plot was the Ministry and its attempts to control the school and to prevent people from finding out the truth, all of which was conveyed perfectly.
As I mentioned, the only really important thing is the locket; as for the rest of Grimmauld place, I think we saw enough of it. I didn't need to see endless cleaning and have Sirius being grumpy. Those were some of the worst parts of the book, in my opinion.
The fight scene in the books was way too long. It had to be trimmed down, or else it would have been an added 30 minutesAlso, they had to convey somehow how Harry fights Voldemort. Having his friends show up and giving Harry the strength to fight him off was important.
The kids did a pretty good job of fighting. They did run, but they fought. It was more believable in the book, and I thought the fight served it's purpose, without all the kids injuring themselves.
I liked Sirius's death; it was sudden, shocking, and unsettling. Better than falling through a curtain, which is anti-climatic to me. Not that I cared much in the book; I was happy when Sirius died, he was such a prat.
Plot holes: Harry can touch the prophecy because it's about him. I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the film. Bellatrix escapes by floo network. Dumbledore's spell and Voldemort's spell connected briefly, but it's not the same was when twin wands connect. We saw what happened with Snape and James.
What do you mean, Snape gave Umbridge fake Veritaserum? He did not give her any because she had used up the entire bottle when she tried to use it on Harry before. Using Cho as the scapegoat has been explained very well. Rita and Firenze were fun elements to OotP but totally unnecessary to the story.
Do you have any complaints that actually support your opinion on why the film sucks, or are you just hating the film because it's not in exact detail exactly like the book?
My best friend has never cracked open a Harry Potter book, and she's had no problems following the films. Any of them. She especially enjoyed OotP, had no trouble with the plot, and of the things I've told her about, she only wishes we could have seen the locket. So the idea that you must read the books to get the film is not true at all.
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I disagree, I actually rather liked the movie. As an adaptation of the book, it wasn't great, but as a movie, I thought it was pretty good. The acting was okay, Evana Lynch played brilliantly as Luna, she had the spaced out light voice, and pulled it off perfectly. Whoever played Umbridge was also pretty good. I laughed alot in the movie, which was surprising, and the main story was all there. Sure, I was dissapointed not to see quidditch (sp?) or Ron and Hermione being the head boy and girl, and I'd have liked to see more of Luna's conspiracy theories.
Overall, I liked this movie, and I watched it twice. So yes, it was a less than average adaptation, but a good movie.
nothing on the pensieve and tonks' role was so small that i barfed a bit in my mouth.
acting was ok. Death eaters looked like a bunch of members of the KKK but with black hats instead of white.
terrible adaptation of the book
new director ----- > go die
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btw was jkr even involved in the movie? was she overseeing it, coz it seems to me that she giving the rights to a bunch of dckheads to make the movie and they keep on fking it up
:: just my 2 cents
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Why does it need to? II is pretty self explanatory.
Congratulations. You have unintentionally made the distinction between a novel and a film.
I'd argue that the pensieve wasn't needed and Tonks only has a small role.
And why shouldn't they be? The parallels between Death Eater's and the KKK are not simply accidental.
Which makes it the best film. It is no longer a low rate, two-bit adapation of the book. It is a film in it's own right.
At least it's not that idiot Chris Columbus. David Yates, in my opinion, is second only to Alfonso Cauron. So you may wish him to die, but he has directed the best Harry Potter movie yet. Well done to him.
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btw was jkr even involved in the movie? was she overseeing it, coz it seems to me that she giving the rights to a bunch of dckheads to make the movie and they keep on fking it up
Your 2 cents they may be, but I think I'll just come and take away your lunch money every day from now on.
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I've been to see the film twice now, and I have to say that I really enjoyed it both times, it's not completely true to the book but that really doesn't matter to me, it's a wonderfully entertaining film, with much improved acting across the board.
Best film on the series by far and made from a book that I didn't enjoy greatly in comparison to others in the series.
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