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Sappho
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Sora is stronger, when Dante plays tennis with a building call me.

Sora's time stop is far more easily utilised, Sora can summon Genie, who will turn Dante to a fish, Sora is not as severely outclassed in speed as you all think he is, Sora can cast Reflega and reflect any of Dante's attacks, yeah, I vote for Sora.


Dante has time powers that act on a whim, maybe sora's is better, but if it is its not by much.

How does reflega work? unless its a never miss and always works, then he's not hitting dante. And your not giving the savior stopping feat enough credit, a buliding may weight a lot but the force put on dante was a lot, especailly since it was moving, id say easily 100+ tons. He was struggling, but not to the point he was trying his hardest.


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Dante has time powers that act on a whim, maybe sora's is better, but if it is its not by much.

How does reflega work? unless its a never miss and always works, then he's not hitting dante. And your not giving the savior stopping feat enough credit, a buliding may weight a lot but the force put on dante was a lot, especailly since it was moving, id say easily 100+ tons. He was struggling, but not to the point he was trying his hardest.
Sora casts time stop, time stops. That's really all there is to it.

He casts Reflega, and all attacks that hit him for a while reflect back to the attacker.

True. But Sora was doing so without struggling at all.


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He casts Reflega, and all attacks that hit him for a while reflect back to the attacker.


Explain this nad how it works in the game, for example does it reflect off it like its a forcefield and fly back at the opponent? if Dante fired a bullet at Sora while he has this spell active how does it work? whats it shown to do in the game?


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Explain this nad how it works in the game, for example does it reflect off it like its a forcefield and fly back at the opponent? if Dante fired a bullet at Sora while he has this spell active how does it work? whats it shown to do in the game?
If it is a projectile, it reflects it back as a projectile.

If it is a melee attack, it reflects it back as they hit Sora, so I reckon it would be the same speed as the attack.


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So a projectile hits it and it flies back with the same speed and accuracy as the character who fired it?


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I imagine that's the concept.


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I want to be exact, if its true then is the spell obvious? is there a graphical effect for it? does Sora glow, or does a forcefield appear around him?

how long does it last? how many times can Sora possibly do this? is there a cooldown, e.g. maybe it lasts for 20 seconds but after that, it cant be used for another minute or something...


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reflega is basically a shield around him but it only lasts for a couple seconds after you cast it. you have to time it before the attack gets to you.

and yes he can only use it a couple of times before he his mp has to recharge.


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Dante stops Sora's timestop when he QuikSilvers. Also, Dante has RoyalGuard/Dreadnaught, so he could take Sora's energies, and use them against him.


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If what Marvel says is true, then its not the best power this barrier, if he has to react to Dante AND then activate it, in which it lasts a few seconds...especially if he can only do it a few times.


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So couldn't Dante just wait until he wears down? Besides, can he even do anything?


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True. But Sora was doing so without struggling at all.
Because he was dealing with far smaller forces.


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Sora wins.


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Lasts a couple of seconds? We have seen it used in a cutscene by someone weaker than Sora, it continued to last until it was broken by Master Xehanort(Who btw, is the single strongest character in KH thus far, having full command over Kingdom Hearts itself, so no bullshit about Dante breaking it when guys like Hercules cannot).

Not to mention it is activated instantly.

Although really, time stop, decapitation.


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Sora casts time stop, time stops. That's really all there is to it.

He casts Reflega, and all attacks that hit him for a while reflect back to the attacker.

True. But Sora was doing so without struggling at all.


By him "casting it" does he move his hand, think it, have to chant something? i never played kh before.

Sora wont need relfega if he can activate his time power, and if somehow sora cant activate it (i.e dante activates his time power, gets to sora to fast and kills him, etc.), then he's screwed.

Yes, but the buidling probably weighed much less than savoir, which is why he wasnt struggling.


If sora's time stop power activates instantly, like by thought, then he wins, but if it doesnt happen extremely fast, then i give it to dante.


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Although really, time stop, decapitation.


lol no


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This fight is based on their respective time powers....


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By him "casting it" does he move his hand, think it, have to chant something? i never played kh before.

Sora wont need relfega if he can activate his time power, and if somehow sora cant activate it (i.e dante activates his time power, gets to sora to fast and kills him, etc.), then he's screwed.

Yes, but the buidling probably weighed much less than savoir, which is why he wasnt struggling.


If sora's time stop power activates instantly, like by thought, then he wins, but if it doesnt happen extremely fast, then i give it to dante.
I cannot really remember, but no KH spell involves a chant, at the most he makes a gesture with his Keyblade when casting spells.

Either or really. Doesn't matter.

Okay. I really need to clear something up. You all need to stop friggin pretending that ALL of Savior's weight was on Dante, a third at best was on him. Sora did not stop a building, he played tennis with it.

It happens within a second. And Sora's speed of itself is no joke.


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I cannot really remember, but no KH spell involves a chant, at the most he makes a gesture with his Keyblade when casting spells.

Either or really. Doesn't matter.

Okay. I really need to clear something up. You all need to stop friggin pretending that ALL of Savior's weight was on Dante, a third at best was on him. Sora did not stop a building, he played tennis with it.

It happens within a second. And Sora's speed of itself is no joke.


Dante would qs and before sora could even move his hand he would be dead.

Yea, if he doesnt have his time stop, and reflega only works for a couple seconds, then dante could just move around until it wears off or he runs out of magic. He needs time stop to even have a chance in this fight.

Yes, it was. He had his whole weight leaning on his fist, which he used to punch dante. If anything it was more than his whole wieght of force because he was moving. Here's the vid if you need to see it again: 1:51:45 he does it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2jX...amp;feature=fvw

I know its not, but in a cutscene qs was shown to slow down a rock by a lot, im guessing by about 10x, so sora slowed down to 10x less make it so that he wouldnt be able to move before dante would kill him.


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Lasts a couple of seconds? We have seen it used in a cutscene by someone weaker than Sora, it continued to last until it was broken by Master Xehanort(Who btw, is the single strongest character in KH thus far, having full command over Kingdom Hearts itself, so no bullshit about Dante breaking it when guys like Hercules cannot).

Not to mention it is activated instantly.

Although really, time stop, decapitation.


can you show me this cutscene because i dont remember that...


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