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Your aggressive behaviour and kind of calling people names like little boy "kid" just reminds me of the average internet tough guy.


Ah. No, that was more or less just my tactic to get him mad, silly. Besides, most people seem masculine on the net, unless they do massive e-flirting, which isn't my thing.


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Your aggressive behaviour and kind of calling people names like little boy "kid" just reminds me of the average internet tough guy. As does this very aggressive post above. You seem an angry person.


nice sig. smile


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Ah. No, that was more or less just my tactic to get him mad, silly. Besides, most people seem masculine on the net, unless they do massive e-flirting, which isn't my thing.


Isn't trying to get people mad an internet tough guy tactic?


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nice sig. smile


Thank you, I like your possting style by the way. Full but not quite an essay and I didn't get bored reading it.

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Isn't trying to get people mad an internet tough guy tactic?


No, I'd think that being mad would be the Net tough guy tactic.

Getting people mad is the tactic of an a**hole


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No, I'd think that being mad would be the Net tough guy tactic.

Getting people mad is the tactic of an a**hole


Not really most internet tough guys pretend to be ambivalent about what is said to them until they "lose face" and explode. Losing face on the internet is also a ridiculous idea. So why the Darkseid/Doomsday hate?


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Ah. No, that was more or less just my tactic to get him mad, silly. Besides, most people seem masculine on the net, unless they do massive e-flirting, which isn't my thing.


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...the default assumption is "male" unless you flirt like Femme or something.


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Also, quit with the bashing and spam or I'll close the thread and issue formal warnings to those who deserve it.


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a thanos clone reduced hulk to a skeleton but he healed from it almost immediately. gl's also have great matter manip feats AND can attack foes mentally. dd wiped out a . . . LOT of green lanterns . . .

he might bind dd for a time, but he would be strong enough to break fre or adapt to the energy.

the only way would be some massive energy attack, a la imperiex, but i don't think thanos has the juice to dish out the kind of punishment it would take to overwhelm dd before he was able to adapt and take out thanos.

Has Doomsday gone up against any of the big name GLs? Rookies wouldn't really pose a problem for him.

Phyla-Vell couldn't break free from the bounds he put her in, but then I guess her strength level isn't compareable to Doomsday (thats if strength alone could break those energy bindings), I wouldn't like to guess how Doomsday compares to Odin in strength though. If Thanos could imprison him briefly, I think it could work against Doomsday for a short time, maybe enough to buy him time to think up a plan, he is one of the smartest characters in comics.

I think Thanos is capable of a massive energy attack, his body can house massives ammount of cosmic energy, in Celestial Quest is absorbed all of the Rot and released it which made the universe 'scream', and he absorbed the HOTU in the same way, absorbing it into his body. Against his clone he amped himself up with cosmic energy, I think releasing a huge energy attack isn't beyond him, but not on Imperiex level.


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Has Doomsday gone up against any of the big name GLs? Rookies wouldn't really pose a problem for him.


He fought a Guardian


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Has Doomsday gone up against any of the big name GLs? Rookies wouldn't really pose a problem for him.

Phyla-Vell couldn't break free from the bounds he put her in, but then I guess her strength level isn't compareable to Doomsday (thats if strength alone could break those energy bindings), I wouldn't like to guess how Doomsday compares to Odin in strength though. If Thanos could imprison him briefly, I think it could work against Doomsday for a short time, maybe enough to buy him time to think up a plan, he is one of the smartest characters in comics.

I think Thanos is capable of a massive energy attack, his body can house massives ammount of cosmic energy, in Celestial Quest is absorbed all of the Rot and released it which made the universe 'scream', and he absorbed the HOTU in the same way, absorbing it into his body. Against his clone he amped himself up with cosmic energy, I think releasing a huge energy attack isn't beyond him, but not on Imperiex level.


he trashed guy, who's a very very solid gl and went against a fuggin guardian. at the same time he wrecked the rest of the league.

and you may be right -- i'm not ruling out the possibility of thanos winning this. i disagree entirely it is a curbstomp, and a battle that can be decided upon very quickly. imo, thanos isn't THAT far above ds that he could effortlessly handle someone who wiped out ds in a couple panels AND withstood the OE. and who made a fool of an amped superman and a herld-leveller in waverider . . .

call me crazy, but i don't think this is all that clear cut. smile


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Originally posted by cyber tuff guy!
Thank you, I like your possting style by the way. Full but not quite an essay and I didn't get bored reading it.

smile


well, thanks. i hate reading essays too and have pretty much given up the debates that require them. smile

wish others would . . . but, too each their own. smile


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he trashed guy, who's a very very solid gl and went against a fuggin guardian. at the same time he wrecked the rest of the league.


Not all Guardians and Lanterns are created equal. Look at Kyle Rayner. Cosmic plummer.

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and you may be right -- i'm not ruling out the possibility of thanos winning this. i disagree entirely it is a curbstomp, and a battle that can be decided upon very quickly. imo, thanos isn't THAT far above ds that he could effortlessly handle someone who wiped out ds in a couple panels AND withstood the OE. and who made a fool of an amped superman and a herld-leveller in waverider . . .


I'm glad you're debating this fairly. Well, let me tell you a bit more of my opinion. Clones of Thanos who are weaker than him have shrugged off opponents on par with or superior to Heralds, and Heralds themselves (Firelord, Mangog, Thor, etc) and he seems so far above them in power that it's ridiculous. Though Doomsday has done some nutty stuff, he didn't seem more powerful at all than Thanos has in the past.


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he trashed guy, who's a very very solid gl and went against a fuggin guardian. at the same time he wrecked the rest of the league.

and you may be right -- i'm not ruling out the possibility of thanos winning this. i disagree entirely it is a curbstomp, and a battle that can be decided upon very quickly. imo, thanos isn't THAT far above ds that he could effortlessly handle someone who wiped out ds in a couple panels AND withstood the OE. and who made a fool of an amped superman and a herld-leveller in waverider . . .

call me crazy, but i don't think this is all that clear cut. smile
I've no idea who takes this fight really, I'm just trying to throw out ideas on how Thanos might pull out a win without BFR based on his powers, trying to open things up for a bit of dicussion. I think ultimately if Thanos were to win it he would need to subdue/imprison Doomsday in someway, rather than killing him, if he can do that without prep I don't know.


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he surprised g and he most certainly did NOT send him across an entire planet . . . laughing out loud nor did his attack actually have any effect whatsoever on g physically. the one time we saw the OE used on galactus it was no more or less effective than thanos was. non-canon, clearly, but still at least something by which to gauge.

While I agree with a lot of what you're saying leo, I did feel the need to address this. When Thanos blasted Galactus, it caused more damage to Big G than any other single attack I've ever seen. It tore up his armor, and blasted his helmet clear off the guy. In the instance with DS vs Galactus you mentioned on the other hand, Big G took DS's OE without a mark to show for it.

Just thought I'd point that out.


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Thanos does well against bricks because he OUTHINKS them and has the durability to take it to h2H if he needs to .

Thanos would knwo that killing H/P Doomsday would be fultile he would look for a way to immobilize DD.

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Immobilizing him didn't work for the Guardians...... 2nd, Thanos beat Doomsday in a slugfest? What the f**k? That's the worst possible way to fight Doomsday. And frankly, Thanos isn't that dumb. If they start slugging it out, Thanos will quickly realize that he can't win a slugfest. Energy powers are dicey. I don't believe Thanos can muster the power to one-shot Doomsday. And if he can't kill him fast, Doomsday will adapt and turn himself into a second Drax (Thanos-kryptonite). I'm fairly sure DD is immune to matter manip and I know he's immune to TP.

Of course if you allow BFR, Thanos everytime. H/P DD was an idiot. He didn't get a brain until DD Rex and he didn't fully exploit and master his powers until Gog Wars.


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Immobilizing him didn't work for the Guardians...... 2nd, Thanos beat Doomsday in a slugfest? What the f**k? That's the worst possible way to fight Doomsday. And frankly, Thanos isn't that dumb. If they start slugging it out, Thanos will quickly realize that he can't win a slugfest. Energy powers are dicey. I don't believe Thanos can muster the power to one-shot Doomsday. And if he can't kill him fast, Doomsday will adapt and turn himself into a second Drax (Thanos-kryptonite). I'm fairly sure DD is immune to matter manip and I know he's immune to TP.


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You''re the one who's biased if you think Thanos can slug it out with DD and win. roll eyes (sarcastic) And btw, DD could have recovered from the Imperiex blast, it just would have taken him a long time. I think they estimated a 1000 years?


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And btw, DD could have recovered from the Imperiex blast, it just would have taken him a long time. I think they estimated a 1000 years? [/B]


Yeah, that's still a loss.


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