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That's not really A>B>C logic, since your missing a third party. Now, if you claimed that " Jin is stronger than Paul because Jin> True Ogre so Jin>True Ogre > Paul"
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We won't know until we try said rules. Honestly, I believe more rules in certain area's it will allow for a more enjoyable debates. It will be less of a headache to manage debating here and bad Logic is never good, peroid. If we need bad logic to debate than something is wrong and it's not game versus. I see what you mean about not restricting everything, though. I feel the sameway about non-canon material. Video Game characters really do not have much canon showings as oppossed to characters of other manga. The average canon showing for a comic/manga at least is a week and at most a year. Now, with that said, compare that to a Video Game with 1 year at the least and up to 5 years at the most. I hate "scrapping" for feats only to have it shot down due to continuity. Add game restriction, and it's even harder to find feats which is why I propose we favor Logic over continuity. Now, I'm not saying we should grab every non-canon feat we can get are grubby lillte hands on. But, if someone has a legitimate argument supporting a feat then why not use it?
I hate having feats discounted because: "The character never demonstrated it" even though it's clear he can. My favorite argument against this is the aerial hadou. Ryu, for instance, has never demonstrated the ability to perform an aerial hadouken in a canon game, now does that mean he cannot do it?
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The problem that people have on this forum is there hostility, I think. If people could could quit with the "Who has a bigger dick" contests I think the forum would be a lot better off. A lot of people start off just debating, but then two pages later they're arguing just to argue.
I can't believe that I gave in to the temptation of refuting some of the bullshit in this post, but here goes.
Would one of those people be you by any chance, since anyone would find that saying one cast is stronger than another is a legitimate reason as to why a character from the overall stronger cast would defeat a character from the other, and that 2D fighters are stronger than 3D fighters since 2D characters have ki attacks and 3-Dimensional characters do not, are pathetic and hilarious statements.
So a thread is bad so long as it relates to those characters?
Yeah...banning those people would help immensely since it'll make good ol' Tricksterpriest satisfied and...for no other reason.
Prove it.
Give a source to prove this please.
Attempt to prove this. No wait, don't since I know it's bullshit.
Yeah, so if we give Akuma Green Lantern's ring or the Sword of Truth, he can overcome Superman, despite the fact that he never has achieved those really. Sounds reasonable..
If it's a "plot device" that doesn't only work on certain characters, then it is.
You're saying Holy couldn't stop anything else? No really
Strange, since I recall Ganondorf is invulnerable to everything but the Master Sword.
Please quote someone making that statement, that is a person making the statement that if the entire cast of Tekken or DOA were to fight the entire Street Fighter or KOF cast at once, the Tekken or DOA cast would win.
Not going to say anything except that you're entitled to your opinion.
I would agree, but ones who've been proven to be able to in a versus match and have gaugeable powers could still be used, especially if the conditions of the debate are canonical. i.e. Hayabusa wielding the Dark Dragon Blade.
See above.
Seeing as he's been seen achieving it.
This case is the same as Jinpachi's.
Yes, there is a way. Jinpachi's canonical abilities have been revealed and his powers in-game are revealed as well. Now Devil Jin in his ending inherited Jinpachi's power. You know...if these guys aren't valid then neither is your precious God Rugal or Cyber Gouki.
That pretty much countermands your statement up top.
So then, why are characters like Belial debatable? Oh right, it's because the statement that characters are only legitimate if they're playable was never a rule. Hence why characters such as Loz, Kadaj, and Yazoo are legitimate characters in the forum.
I doubt you have a clue as to what you're talking about.
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Regarding characters' invulnerabilities to everything but a certain ability or weapon, if a random character is given the correct device, the only device to defeat a villain then the character can pull off a victory. Though it's funny since if that character never got the item nor if that item exists in that character's universe, then they shouldn't get it in the first place. Would be a whole lot better to take away the villain's invulnerability instead.
However, if that's not the case then saying "ZOMG, if Akuma gets the True Dragon Sword he can beat the V.E", just seems like one of those idiotic debating tactics that I know a certain individual uses.
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How about Having unbalanced matches should no longer be a part of vs forums?...if one is to have a serious debate.. I would think the two combatants power should be at least in the same range
having master chief fight sakura or other ridiculous match-up (like jedah vs sonic the hedgehog lol) ruins the atmosphere of debate, IMO
Manners are important also... calling someone an idiot or gay just because they dont share the opinion that the character is as powerful as you percieve them (or even if you factually know), is just very rude... just let them think what they want and move on... name calling is just so grammar school to me... I'm sure we're all mature enough to weed out silly comments / opinions and persue the real debate at hand (whatever it may be)