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Neo Darkhalen
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A collective group of people define this way to be big
others define it and class it to be small, I guess there is no right and Wrong answer, but only what you precise it to be, existence is a strange thing, and we cannot begin to comprehend this force around us, but we try and we all have our own thoughts on what a dimension is, in reality like Lana said it can be any shape and size at all, especially when compering more then one Dimension with another.

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does a dimension of space have a main land? soil....earth...no it doesn not wink its even called a world..and to add insult to injury this is your own source you posted ime getting this from


Are all dimensions the same? erm


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Originally posted by Lana


Obvious (and intelligent) people realize that a dimension can be any size at all.


Exactly

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Dimension: A plane of existence.

There, done. It doesn't matter what's in it, a dimension is simply the overall, possibly infinite area within which something exists.


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I live in another plane of existence then?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
A collective group of people define this way to be big
others define it and class it to be small, I guess there is no right and Wrong answer, but only what you precise it to be, existence is a strange thing, and we cannot begin to comprehend this force around us, but we try and we all have our own thoughts on what a dimension is, in reality like Lana said it can be any shape and size at all, especially when compering more then one Dimension with another.


I doubt that all dimensions are the same, there may be a rare case, where that could be true but for the most part I would doubt it, however like I have said we have no constant meaning of true Dimensions and their structure, so we take a stab in the dark for the most part, I believe for the most part separate dimensions are different but their is not telling weather there could be two dimensions that are identical, the same goes for alternative and parallel dimensions.

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Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Are all dimensions the same? erm




Exactly


he still only canonically destroys makai, i rest my case, he destroys a planet...simple..not a dimension, its your turn if you "can" unless you concede to prove that Makai is the whole dimension and if it is


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I rest my case BT.


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he still only canonically destroys makai, i rest my case, he destroys a planet...simple..not a dimension, its your turn if you "can" unless you concede to prove that Makai is the whole dimension and if it is



I already did prove it.

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Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I doubt that all dimensions are the same, there may be a rare case, where that could be true but for the most part I would doubt it, however like I have said we have no constant meaning of true Dimensions and their structure, so we take a stab in the dark for the most part, I believe for the most part separate dimensions are different but their is not telling weather there could be two dimensions that are identical, the same goes for alternative and parallel dimensions.


So that means, you're me?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Burning thought
he still only canonically destroys makai, i rest my case, he destroys a planet...simple..not a dimension, its your turn if you "can" unless you concede to prove that Makai is the whole dimension and if it is


You fail to see dimensional structure, and the possibility's within it.

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Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Jedah already destroyed Makai. So, it's assumed he can do the same for the Human world. Jinpaichi did not destroy anything at all, So, how is that a double standard.? Instead of posting a patheic stawman, why don't you post everything I stated?

-You gave no proof of Jedah destroying anything but what was seen, which was a series of buildings collapsing, which was the whole point of showing the double standard. You ask for proof of things (yet deny it even after having it tossed at you many times) and argue things while not in possession of proof, all while claiming you proved something.

And you're one to call a strawman after asking someone to prove Makai was just a planet after realizing you had no confirmation of Jedah doing jack shit relative to wiping out something bigger than even a star.


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Once again.
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Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
You fail to see dimensional structure, and the possibility's within it.


As for this.

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Originally posted by Sol Valentine
So that means, you're me?


???

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OK, I exist in the Golden Cold Room. Where all of time and space is inverted and the personality of people in your Earth are opposite to ours. So:

KMC is LNX
Sol Valentine is me
and time is reversed from 12:00 pm to 12:00 am.

And we have powers.


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Originally posted by Sado-sama
-You gave no proof of Jedah destroying anything but what was seen, which was a series of buildings collapsing,


And, the dialouge which clearly describes Makai as the world being destroyed and the fact that he proceeds with his plan to recreate the universe:

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Jedah's speech more then enough evidence to does who know about DS.

From his ending:

". . .It is said, that all life began with on life form"

"To correct the errors of this world, I shall go back"

Okay, lets examine what he's saying. The first sentence is clearly a reference to Makai. Because, Makai is believed to be created by one Life form according to legend:


"It is written in the "Makai Souseiki/Genesis of Makai" that Makai is the
body of god itself. The "first lifeform" appeared through emptiness and it is the one who created Makai.

second sentence has to do with Jedah's goal, and that is to recreate everything. The whole "Going back" metaphor is clearly an allusion to this goal.

"He was always distressed about the future of Makai. He believes that if Makai left to rule by Belial, it would grow old and begin to decay."


"Story: Jedah, the lord of the Dohma clan, awoke from his century long sleep. He believes that he is the one that needs to recreate life by fusing all souls into one life form, "the Shintai". To do this, he creates the Majigen and summons those with worthy souls into his realm."






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Originally posted by Sado-sama

which was the whole point of showing the double standard. You ask for proof of things (yet deny it even after having it tossed at you many times) and argue things while not in possession of proof, all while claiming you proved something.


Because it was not proof, it's conjecture based on several pieces of dialogue. How does: "The World will never be the same again" translate too "I destroyed the world"


We see Jedah feed The Shintai, We Destruction, We see him mention the human world is next, we know his goal is to recreate exsistence, He says he will destroy another world.


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Jinpaichi mentions that he's being ordered to destroy the world, we see nothing but a dialogue that says the world will never be the same.


Tha's Five pieces of evidence versus Two, even a two year old pieces it together. If Jedah failed at destroying the universe, why would he proceed to destroy another one?




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Originally posted by Sado-sama

And you're one to call a strawman after asking someone to prove Makai was just a planet after realizing you had no confirmation. . .


Stop ranting sweetie, he made the claim. So, the burden of proof falls on him.

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so this is whats been confirmed by this whole debate, Jedah has possibly destroyed a planet, Jedah has taken an amount of souls less than that of earth...great...fine by me wink


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Neo Darkhalen
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I exist with in the dark realm, trapped within a void, sort of like an in closed dimension similar to the effect of black holes, anyway my castle resides within many areas, as such my castle is infinite, forever were forever was, and as such temporal shifts do not occur, nor does the effect of different base reality's or concepts.

Universe's and dimensions are of complex order, it could be that we are in a set path or that our dimensions shift throughout, constantly changing, it could also be acknowledged that many dimensions interlock, or split apart thus more dimensions could be created.

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Hm. The Golden Cold room pwns yours my millenias.


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I doubt it, also Yoshi read some of the previous pages, we are debating about dimensions.

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